New Civ4 Pitboss (38?)

[dtay]

So as my real life has stabilized, I've been itching to get back up to playing 2/pb at a time... any takers? I don't think I'm looking for anything very far off a bog-standard RtR game, but if I had to pick ideal settings:

Map: Normal bound of lushness, preferably cylindrical (have a bit of commodore in me), at about the level of map-balance as PB27, maybe a bit less.

For context, what I mean by that is PB27 had not literally mirrored starts, but pretty symmetrically accessible "types" of things, ie something like your metal-happy was 3 cities away, 1 calendar happy in capital, copper in 2nd city next to X food, etc. By the geometry of the map was pretty much not mirrored at all. Putting aside whether or not PB27 astro-islands only was balanced (for my part, I don't really care, it was still cool).


Player Count: 10+ is my hope  25
Mod: RtR 2.X.X.X.whatever the newest one in that line is  2.0.8.3 2.0.8.4
Picktype: 2 leader, 1 civ, 2 mulligans

Stuff we never change:
Difficulty/Size/Barb/Villages/Speed: Monarch/Standard Huge/On/Off/Normal

Anyone interested? To start as soon as plausible, but guessing might mean not until after holidays given there is no mapmaker lined up and where we are in the calendar.

And if we wanted to christen this the next in the "big-PBs" line and round up as much of the standard crowd as possible... well that would be the cherry on top. Once we did every civ... how about every leader this time ?

Mapmaker: BRick, Mardoc, many others

Final Playerlist, presented in TaoTao Tier (TTT) order

1)   The Black Sword
2)   Mackoti
3)   Old Harry + Fintourist + shallow_thought + TheHumanHydra
4)   Dtay
5)   GermanJoey
6)   Commodore
7)   Gavagai
8)   OT4E + chumchu
9)   plako
10) Mr. Cairo
11) Dark Savant
12) 2metraninja
13) AdrienIer + TruthBehindTheLies
14) WilliamLP
15) Boldly Going Nowhere
16) Pindicator
17) Dreylin
18) spacetyrantxenu
19) Donovan Zoi
20) Rusten
21) elkad
22) B4ndit
23) superdeath (1st time player)
24) naufrager (1st time player)
25) Aretas (1st time player)

More info stuff:

Regarding how everything works, there is a pitboss etiquette thread which might be useful: http://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showt...p?tid=7311.

Even more info stuff:

(spoilered for length)

1. Diplo. I don’t know if there is a current RB best practice. I think we want at least a bit more restricted approach than what we had in PB13 where people used trading screens for communicating NAPs
2. Map trading. I did like in PB18 that it was off à Exploring phase lasted longer. I don’t know how others felt

1. I prefer to limit to AI diplo. Fish-for-fish and similar without gpt countdowns.
2. 100% agree here. Reward teams that scout well. It made the game much more interesting IMO to be able to discover new tiles deeper into the game.

Air bombing improvements and turn order - do we want to just ban all air pillaging like the late era games?

1. I agree.

I think it is late to state or discuss requirements for map. But we can discuss restrictions and mod issues though.

I support banning air pillaging.
I dont see any problems with fish-2-fish deals and in my experience all attempts to fix them failed. People simply ignore or forget about such rules and nobody honestly demands them to be complied.

Though gold or gpt should not be used for messaging and such things must be considered as bad sportsmanship. So if you want to express friendly intentions you can send fish-2-fish deal but you never know how long will it last. And nobody is obliged to follow it.

1. Agree, ban air pillaging. Not easily countered with turn splits.
2. Agree. Accept these interpreted NAPs at your own risk.
3. Agree, again. No gpt countdowns.

[Krill]

There was a bit of discussion in my PB37 thread about the next pb game, and I'll stand by what I said there: given the time of year and the forum, we are probably looking at a start in early January unless something drastic changes.

I want to sign up, but I can't carry PB37, civ 6 pbem 5 and this game.

Edit: I should probably move some of the discussion about the mod into the main thread as well.

[superdeath]

First time poster/multiplayer here, id love to join this. I just have one question as this game type is new to me, possible to not have espionage enabled? Ill still play, i just have next to no experience with that part of the game. Thanks!

[Mr. Cairo]

Sign me up, and I'm ok to start asap as well. I also agree with you on the map Dtay, I don't think that mirrored maps really do enough to improve balance to make them worthwhile.

Re: espionage, I'd prefer to stick with the usual rules of banning spies and active missions.

Edit: nevermind, see Dtay's post below. Too long playing base bts, I'd forgotten that RtR fixed all that.

[dtay]

re: espionage - RtR disables all active missions, the only thing espionage does in the mod is enable the passive benefits of graphs/tech-visions/city-vision/city-details

I believe you can still build spies, they just don't do anything besides let you move around opposing territory and well, spy on stuff (though they only have vision on their own tile).

[Commodore]

Put me down in slot 20. So if there are at least 19 people then I am game.

[dtay]

Put me down in slot 20. So if there are at least 19 people then I am game.

Challenge accepted  

[Krill]

Slot 19 requested then.

[pindicator]

I guess that makes me 18

[dtay]

Slot 19 requested then.

I guess that makes me 18

Ya'll really making this do or die