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New Civ4 Pitboss (38?)

Anyone else want to sign up whilst I'm working out map dimensions?
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

Confirmed:
1) dtay
2) superdeath (1st time player)
3) Mr. Cairo
4) ghostpants (1st time player) and Chumchu
5) B4ndit
6) Rusten
7) Donovan Zoi
8) Gavagai
9) Old Harry + Fintourist
10) GermanJoey
11) Dreylin
12) OT4E
13) Dark Savant
14) 2metraninja
15) Mackoti
16) The Black Sword
17) AdrienIer
18) Pindicator
19) WilliamLP
20) Commodore
21) naufrager (1st time player)
22) plako
23) elkad
24) spacetyrantxenu
25) Boldly Going Nowhere
26) Aretas

I've given Gavagai 8th place to save renumbering everyone.

I don't think we can fit any more players with the current pick method, so let's hold it at 26.

Can a lurker roll us our first round of combos please?

Wait on the picks. The moment that gets released the game gets started and the rules get locked in. Spend the evening checking and making sure all the rules are right and someone can post the pick options tomorrow.

If you're chomping at the bit start your spoiler thread and start berating me.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23

Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6:  PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18

Are all the settings, mod, inputs for map now set? 

It's better to discuss settings before seeing the combos.. And I guess the idea is to see the starts before picking/re-rolling, but there it does not really matter, whether combos are announced first I guess..

EDIT: a bit of cross-post with krill
Finished:
PBEM 45G, PB 13, PB 18, PB 38 & PB 49

Top 3 favorite turns: 
#1, #2, #3

(December 20th, 2017, 14:25)Krill Wrote: Wait on the picks. The moment that gets released the game gets started and the rules get locked in.

nod

(December 20th, 2017, 14:25)Krill Wrote: Spend the evening checking and making sure all the rules are right and someone can post the pick options tomorrow.

Someone is vague and we don't want competing lists.  I'll dictatorially nominate Mardoc to post a list whenever he feels like it, at whatever point after Krill says he's ready for it tomorrow.

Played: Pitboss 18 - Kublai Khan of Germany Somalia | Pitboss 11 - De Gaulle of Byzantium | Pitboss 8 - Churchill of Portugal | PB7 - Mao of Native America | PBEM29 Greens - Mao of Babylon

Moderation note, I renamed the map thread title to include NO PLAYERS. I have not and will not read anything in that thread.

Played: Pitboss 18 - Kublai Khan of Germany Somalia | Pitboss 11 - De Gaulle of Byzantium | Pitboss 8 - Churchill of Portugal | PB7 - Mao of Native America | PBEM29 Greens - Mao of Babylon

Looking at the first post, there are couple of things that probably should be decided / dtay / Mardoc should decide on our behalf:
 
1.      Diplo. I don’t know if there is a current RB best practice. I think we want at least a bit more restricted approach than what we had in PB13 where people used trading screens for communicating NAPs
2.      Map trading. I did like in PB18 that it was off à Exploring phase lasted longer. I don’t know how others felt
3.      I guess final mod, difficulty, toroid/cylindrical are still a bit open. Maybe those come from Krill
4.      Other stuff?
Finished:
PBEM 45G, PB 13, PB 18, PB 38 & PB 49

Top 3 favorite turns: 
#1, #2, #3

Air bombing improvements and turn order - do we want to just ban all air pillaging like the late era games?

I think it is late to state or discuss requirements for map. But we can discuss restrictions and mod issues though.

I support banning air pillaging.
I dont see any problems with fish-2-fish deals and in my experience all attempts to fix them failed. People simply ignore or forget about such rules and nobody honestly demands them to be complied.

Though gold or gpt should not be used for messaging and such things must be considered as bad sportsmanship. So if you want to express friendly intentions you can send fish-2-fish deal but you never know how long will it last. And nobody is obliged to follow it.

(December 21st, 2017, 03:54)Fintourist Wrote: Looking at the first post, there are couple of things that probably should be decided / dtay / Mardoc should decide on our behalf:
 
1.      Diplo. I don’t know if there is a current RB best practice. I think we want at least a bit more restricted approach than what we had in PB13 where people used trading screens for communicating NAPs
2.      Map trading. I did like in PB18 that it was off à Exploring phase lasted longer. I don’t know how others felt
3.      I guess final mod, difficulty, toroid/cylindrical are still a bit open. Maybe those come from Krill
4.      Other stuff?


1. I prefer to limit to AI diplo. Fish-for-fish and similar without gpt countdowns.
2. 100% agree here. Reward teams that scout well. It made the game much more interesting IMO to be able to discover new tiles deeper into the game.
3. This is good with me.
4. Initial tiles revealed at discretion of mapmaker.

(December 21st, 2017, 04:21)The Black Sword Wrote: Air bombing improvements and turn order - do we want to just ban all air pillaging like the late era games?

1. I agree.

(December 21st, 2017, 04:57)OT4E Wrote: I think it is late to state or discuss requirements for map. But we can discuss restrictions and mod issues though.

I support banning air pillaging.
I dont see any problems with fish-2-fish deals and in my experience all attempts to fix them failed. People simply ignore or forget about such rules and nobody honestly demands them to be complied.

Though gold or gpt should not be used for messaging and such things must be considered as bad sportsmanship. So if you want to express friendly intentions you can send fish-2-fish deal but you never know how long will it last. And nobody is obliged to follow it.

1. Agree, ban air pillaging. Not easily countered with turn splits.
2. Agree. Accept these interpreted NAPs at your own risk.
3. Agree, again. No gpt countdowns.



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