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[Spoilers] Ichabod, the Civ King

I plan to get 2 Lavras in my first 2 cities. So, if I have only 2 district techs, this means my first district of a different type will get a discount. I see two options here: either invest in Encampments or Campuses.

Encampments:

*I have two quests for a GG.
*A Classical/Medieval GG opens up a lot of possibilities, be it with horsemen, knights or XBows. I don't necessarily need to attack at Cossacks. Even if I lose the first GG, there's a chance the next one will also be a Classical one, if we go fast enough.
*I have Carthage in a very defensible position, with 2 envoys already. The suzerainity gives me TRs from Camps + the extra unit production on Camps.

Campuses:

*I have a lot of sources of culture already, if everything works according to the plan (choral music, pastures, great works). I need science to keep at the same pace. Science is needed to get Cossacks ASAP.
*I need 2 campuses for the Recorded History Inspiration. And if my culture rate keeps this high, I can't really delay this that much, if I want to really beeline Monarchy.
*First GS is Hypathia, which is pretty interesting. Likely to have a lot of competition for this one and losing it is way more damaging than losing a GG race.

My big advantage to try and get either the first GG or the first GSci is the discounted district + reaching PP and a wildcard slot way early than everyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if I beat people to PP + Myst/Mil. Trad. by something like 15 turns. That's 30 GPP from the needed 60, which is definetely a lot. Japan is the biggest competition for the first GG, as they have discounted Camps. GSci has a wider competition, most likely, and a worse outcome if we lose the prize (someone will get Divine Spark pantheon, for sure).

I think going for the first GG (or second, I'm not picky) -> backtracking to get 2 discounted Campuses before Recorded History might be best (low risk, with high reward). If I sandbag techs and avoid district techs, we can likely get everything discounted... It's all a matter of hitting the right timings, which is pretty nice. In this sense, having no workable World Editor to allow sandboxing makes this game better. Otherwise, this decisions would be way more black and white, and the gameplay would suffer.

Can anyone explain to me, or point me to a link, about how the next Great Person era is defined? I want to know what are the chances that the second GG is also Classical.
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The GP era is the World Era + 1. For example, when half of the Civs reach the Classical then the next GP will be from the Medieval.

https://forums.civfanatics.com/resources...ple.26276/

I think what may be missing from this article (and I'd have to go digging for a reference) is that if a Civ gets 2 eras ahead of the current World Era then the World Era advances by 1. It's a highly unlikely development in MP play.
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Don't do what I did: PBEM 3 - Arabia , PBEM 6 - Australia This worked well enough: PBEM 10 - Aztecs Gamus Interruptus: PBEM 14 - Indonesia 
Gathering Storm Meanderings: PBEM 15 - Gorgo You Say Pítati, I Say Potato: PBEM 17 - Nubia The Last of the Summer Wine: PBEM 18 - Eleanor/England
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(April 5th, 2018, 14:30)suboptimal Wrote: I think what may be missing from this article (and I'd have to go digging for a reference) is that if a Civ gets 2 eras ahead of the current World Era then the World Era advances by 1.  It's a highly unlikely development in MP play.

If someone can tech Cartography before anyone leaves the Classical era (which I have seen on water maps) they are two eras ahead (it's a Rennaissance tech, but you don't need a medieval one to tech it)
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Thanks a lot, suboptimal.

Is there an easy way in game to check the world era? Like a tooltip or something. Or do I have to find it myself?
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I do not believe there is anything to explicitly tell you in-game. I believe the civ intro for Player #1 will have the first paragraph of flavor text change eras as they advance, but that's a player era, not a game/world era. For world era the "easiest" (only?) way to check is to look at the tech & civics trees - the icons along the scale at the bottom for the various civs will line up under their most advanced tech on each tree. SP shows all civs, even unmet, but I forget if that's the case in MP.

There's also a scale on the right side of the next turn button - there's a small arrow with 8 dots along the brown rim, starting at the gear-looking decoration on the lower right. According to reddit that scale indicates what era you're in, but the reddit thread didn't indicate if that was "your" era or the "world" era.
Sending units to their death since 2017.

Don't do what I did: PBEM 3 - Arabia , PBEM 6 - Australia This worked well enough: PBEM 10 - Aztecs Gamus Interruptus: PBEM 14 - Indonesia 
Gathering Storm Meanderings: PBEM 15 - Gorgo You Say Pítati, I Say Potato: PBEM 17 - Nubia The Last of the Summer Wine: PBEM 18 - Eleanor/England
Rhymin' Simon: PBEM 20 - Indonesia (Team w/ China)
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(April 5th, 2018, 15:08)suboptimal Wrote: There's also a scale on the right side of the next turn button - there's a small arrow with 8 dots along the brown rim, starting at the gear-looking decoration on the lower right.  According to reddit that scale indicates what era you're in, but the reddit thread didn't indicate if that was "your" era or the "world" era.

If that's ture, then the Civ 6 UI truly is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma.  crazyeye
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(April 6th, 2018, 03:03)Ituralde Wrote:
(April 5th, 2018, 15:08)suboptimal Wrote: There's also a scale on the right side of the next turn button - there's a small arrow with 8 dots along the brown rim, starting at the gear-looking decoration on the lower right.  According to reddit that scale indicates what era you're in, but the reddit thread didn't indicate if that was "your" era or the "world" era.

If that's ture, then the Civ 6 UI truly is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma.  crazyeye

Every time I start to think I understand this game I run face-first into another strange design choice or a weird programming exception or something I can't even conceive of.
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I went back through one of the PBEM's to see when the little meter advances - it's your era, not the world's era.
Sending units to their death since 2017.

Don't do what I did: PBEM 3 - Arabia , PBEM 6 - Australia This worked well enough: PBEM 10 - Aztecs Gamus Interruptus: PBEM 14 - Indonesia 
Gathering Storm Meanderings: PBEM 15 - Gorgo You Say Pítati, I Say Potato: PBEM 17 - Nubia The Last of the Summer Wine: PBEM 18 - Eleanor/England
Rhymin' Simon: PBEM 20 - Indonesia (Team w/ China)
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Krill is going strong for a religion. He has 2 Holy Sites already. Luckily, Rowain beat him to Divine Spark, so he's up with 2GPP per turn only. I'm still 1 turn away from my first Lavra (which will be built with a chop into warrior overflow), and a few turns from my second Lavra (also chop military into district). I'll beat Krill in a natural GPP race, as I'll soon be up with 4 GPP per turn and I can even run the GPro card for an extra oomph. The question is, will Krill run projects? That's an interesting one. I think his investment into early HSs means more a nice exploit of his traits (cheaper districts), which will be further boosted by other quick districts through discount mechanics, rather than a religion or boost strategy. Actually, Krill stated in another thread that only the 2 first religions are valuable (probably the combination between 2 of Choral Music, JE, DotF and Church Property), so he may very well be shooting for a potential number 1, but satisfied with number 2. My guess is that he won't be spending hammers on projects this early.

Anyway, I think that, given first choice, Krill would go for JE over Choral. That's because his Civ is district based. He can pretty easily discount most of his districts, he has incentive to go Theaters (half cost and way easier adjacencies) and so on. That's good for me, because I think Choral is way better for me. Losing DotF would be a pain, but Church property isn't that bad, and I think I could use Crusade to my advantage as well.



I'm exploring, building some units, getting some chops ready (I have to gain back some lost tempo by chopping into units -> settlers). Eureka-wise, I'm hoping to get BW from that scout. Archery is up in the air still. A city on that coffee NE of the Capital might be nice. A lot of no-builder needed tiles and more easy culture. Also, it goes on the direction of Krill and Bandar Brunei. Getting a second source of horses with my 4th city and taking BB with some horsemen might be a good idea (timings may vary if we go for a Camp in the Capital).
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I got the BW Eureka, as the barb scout did sacrifice himself.



First Lavra was chopped (warrior -> Lavra). The second city is building a slinger to get ready for another chop. Luckily, the culture picker will choose the forest 1W of the mountain next turn, which is a 2 faith adjacency spot. That's the tile I'm planning on chopping -> placing the Lavra.



Great land. Tea and tobacco are new happy resources. I still need to explore a bit more, but there are a lot of great spots for cities. Notice the stone mountains to the west. lol 

I switched policies to the +1 hammer per city. I'll run it for a bit, until State Workforce, when i'll probably switch to 50% settler. We keep on track for PP before turn 50, which I think is really quick.
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