RE: [SPOILERS] Pindicator conquers the world with B Movies

[pindicator]

Yeah, the lack of food means that would be an awful capital longterm. Unless we just wanted to spam EW for all time ... 11hpt is pretty good for size 2 but nobody within 12 tiles would be tough to rush effectively

[Krill]

Planting on the gypsum with a second city is interesting though. And shoving out a settler before Agoge is available seems wise if you want to use EW to take down players or city states.

[suboptimal]

Don't forget about the luxury bonus to combat strength to all units when attacking. It might seem like a small bonus but +1 at this point in the game is big.

PBEM 10 Spoiler

In my test games I found that the extra +1 made city-state conquests that much easier. Though I could do it on the starting turn I settled on gypsum. The resulting city center is a 2F/2P/1G yield. The extra gold also adds up.

[pindicator]

I forgot to actually open up the save last night and move the EW onto the hill - busy evening but i had 5 min if I would have made it a priority - but right now I think settling the capital on the gypsum is too all-in on the EW rush. That leaves 3 plans to explore:

1. Settle on the hill 7-7 of the settler.  I like that there is s ton of production to be had here and you're probably working both bananas after the first border expansion. Downside is losing 2 turns over SIP.

2. Settle on the cows. Only loses 1 turn. Use the marsh and 3f plant to get to size 2 quick then swap over to the 2h tiles. Banana after first border pop. 

Both 1 and 2 would start with an EW and then either do a settler next or another EW, depending on what scouting turns up. 

3. SIP. I'm not optimistic about this spot but might as well look it over.

[Krill]

Does settling on the cow give a 3 food capital? If so that is still going to be slower to the first EW and settler than 77. It works two three yield tiles until it picks up the 5 yield banana. 77 has three 4 yield tiles inner ring, and picks up the banana only one turn after the cows city would do.

The cow city can build a watermill though, but then a city on the gypsum, or around there, could still do that.

[pindicator]

I am fairly certain it is a 3f plant but I would test that before playing. Regardless, I can see that the plains hill tile at 7-7 has so many better first ring tiles. The cow plant still needs to expand borders (and probably use its first 50g) to get 4-yield and 5-yield tiles under its borders, but the plains hill has plenty of 4-yield tiles in the first ring and will likely nab the banana on the first tile expansion. 

This is all obvious after staring at the pic for a few moments, I just have to find a block of time where I can do that lol.  My schedule gets a lot more manageable after today at least.

[Emperor K]

I do believe that 'bonus' resources are consumed on settle, and do not apply any further bonus. Strategic and luxury resources are the only ones that add value to a settle.

[Krill]

Ah, something changing at work or in RL?

[Ichabod]

I do believe that 'bonus' resources are consumed on settle, and do not apply any further bonus. Strategic and luxury resources are the only ones that add value to a settle.

I don't think bonus resources get consumed on settle.

PBEM 9 Spoilers:

Bacchus has a city with a 3/1 base tile and I'm almost entirely sure it was settled on rice. The only 3 food luxury is grass wine, I think, and that would mean a 3/1/1 anyway.

Just realized you guys can't read the spoilers above... Well, it's worth testing, I wouldn't be surprised even if different bonus resources worked differently in this mess of a game. But I'm pretty sure you keep it, meaning a 3/1 base yield if you settle on cows.

[pindicator]

Ah, something changing at work or in RL?

RL has been nutty and will continue to be through the next few weeks (wedding to go to next week, roommate/owner moving out so I am getting renters to be able to stay on, helping my parents with the estate of my uncle who passed last month, and then just trying to keep some kind of a social life and exercise schedule intact). I have time for a civ game, bUT these last two days have just been a little too packed. 

If I can get a slow work afternoon I'll try to do some preliminary planning today though