September 3rd, 2019, 14:33
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(September 3rd, 2019, 14:01)Charriu Wrote: Oh my reading this, I'm sorry for complicating war declaration in that way. To be honest I did not thought about it when I implemented it.
I think this will still be very much worthwhile to add; AI diplo before seriously missed such as option, I think. This is an experimental game, let's find out!
Though yeah, we should think this through and lay out rules before the game actually begins. We still have a lot of time before the map is generated and the snake pick.
September 3rd, 2019, 17:33
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If I accept the declare war deal then surely my choice is to play my turn now (if it isn't a double move) or logout again and wait for my adversary to play before logging in to play (perhaps with a pm too let them know what happened).
Is there a scenario I've missed?
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September 3rd, 2019, 22:56
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If you still need my vote:
Ancient Start, due to the DLL issues
Events: On, let's see what happens
AI diplo: On
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September 3rd, 2019, 23:20
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(September 3rd, 2019, 17:33)Old Harry Wrote: If I accept the declare war deal then surely my choice is to play my turn now (if it isn't a double move) or logout again and wait for my adversary to play before logging in to play (perhaps with a pm too let them know what happened).
Is there a scenario I've missed?
But you should only tell the player that the DoW came via diplo. You should not tell them who bought you in.
September 4th, 2019, 10:23
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(September 3rd, 2019, 23:20)Charriu Wrote: (September 3rd, 2019, 17:33)Old Harry Wrote: If I accept the declare war deal then surely my choice is to play my turn now (if it isn't a double move) or logout again and wait for my adversary to play before logging in to play (perhaps with a pm too let them know what happened).
Is there a scenario I've missed?
But you should only tell the player that the DoW came via diplo. You should not tell them who bought you in.
I think the scenario I missed was when player A offers player B a war vs C for war vs C trade. Then the declaration comes when B accepts.
At this point I think:
- B should PM A to say they accepted
- B should PM C to say they've declared war and what the turn split is
- A should PM C to say they've declared war and what the turn split is
B probably shouldn't say they got bought into the war, that'll be fairly obvious anyway.
My original post was about B being bought into an existing war (or very rarely being asked to attack someone A isn't at war with). That seems pretty straightforward:
- B should PM C to say they've declared war and what the turn split is
I don't have a strong opinion on if B should PM A to say they've accepted, it's only an issue if A gets a peace offer from C and their acceptance depends on what B is doing. But you can find that out by pressing F4 anyway.
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September 4th, 2019, 16:29
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(September 4th, 2019, 10:23)Old Harry Wrote: (September 3rd, 2019, 23:20)Charriu Wrote: (September 3rd, 2019, 17:33)Old Harry Wrote: If I accept the declare war deal then surely my choice is to play my turn now (if it isn't a double move) or logout again and wait for my adversary to play before logging in to play (perhaps with a pm too let them know what happened).
Is there a scenario I've missed?
But you should only tell the player that the DoW came via diplo. You should not tell them who bought you in.
I think the scenario I missed was when player A offers player B a war vs C for war vs C trade. Then the declaration comes when B accepts.
At this point I think:
- B should PM A to say they accepted
- B should PM C to say they've declared war and what the turn split is
- A should PM C to say they've declared war and what the turn split is
B probably shouldn't say they got bought into the war, that'll be fairly obvious anyway.
My original post was about B being bought into an existing war (or very rarely being asked to attack someone A isn't at war with). That seems pretty straightforward:
- B should PM C to say they've declared war and what the turn split is
I don't have a strong opinion on if B should PM A to say they've accepted, it's only an issue if A gets a peace offer from C and their acceptance depends on what B is doing. But you can find that out by pressing F4 anyway.
Quote:Which brings me to what is probably going to be the easiest rule of thumb: The offer to declare war must be treated by the player sending it as an actual declaration of war, and can only be sent at a time it would be legal to declare war.
Does this cover all of the war declaration stuff? Nothing else in the AI Diplo option affects turn splits.
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September 4th, 2019, 21:07
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So are we waiting on anything to start the long long snake pick process?
September 4th, 2019, 21:49
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(September 4th, 2019, 21:07)Commodore Wrote: So are we waiting on anything to start the long long snake pick process?
The map, I thought.
Or did you want to try a snake pick blind to start position?
September 5th, 2019, 01:37
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If we accept the above proposed rules (which I think we should unless.anyone can find holes in them) then we are waiting on screenshots and snake pick your order.
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September 5th, 2019, 15:04
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I won't get to the map till the weekend. I'd be thinking of a Monday timeframe if you're looking for screenshots.
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