January 20th, 2020, 16:45
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Parachute is BLUE
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January 20th, 2020, 17:22
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Then I think we're all in on:
Point to HELICOPTER
January 20th, 2020, 17:44
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HELICOPTER is blue
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
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January 20th, 2020, 17:47
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Vacuum next?
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January 20th, 2020, 18:12
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I don't see the VACUUM connection, but I don't see any other word that fits either. So sure, I'm fine with VACUUM.
January 21st, 2020, 02:46
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Problem is that shouldn't all the words fit at least one of Cheap, Kevlar and Grocer? And I'm not sure about that for VACUUM (it definitely fits Evacuation for me). I guess you get VACUUM-packed food at a Grocer? I can see a PORT (wine) connection to Grocer, but PORT-Evacuation? I can think of lots of military Evacuations that have been at least partly through ports (Dunkirk, Corunna).
But I note WK's comment that he is pretty sure PORT is Red (I don't quite follow that myself, but that could be lack of experience).
Genuinely can't decide. Happy to go with either VACUUM or PORT. Going to hold off and wait for one more weigh-in from WK.
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January 21st, 2020, 03:18
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(January 21st, 2020, 02:46)shallow_thought Wrote: Problem is that shouldn't all the words fit at least one of Cheap, Kevlar and Grocer?
Not necessarily. Take a look at our original guesses for Kevlar for example. First turn we guessed ORGAN and TRUNK, and thought either HELICOPTER or PARACHUTE was the last word. However it turns out they were all blue, so which words did JR4 really mean? We don't know how JR4 planned the clues and won't know for sure until the game is over, but since our current clue covers all our remaining words, we should forget about our previous guesses and focus on the clue in front of us.
I'm still highly against PORT for the sole reason that red is almost certainly going to pick it due to their unlimited clue. Look at AA's post regarding the different possibilities the clue meant and all of them have the last Oil word as PORT. If it turns out PORT is our last word, there's a good chance red will guess it for us.
We have 3 people who are happy with VACUUM for the last word so we could point to it but I was hoping for pja to chime in first with what he thinks, considering this is almost certainly the last major decision we will make this round.
January 21st, 2020, 06:07
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Yeah, all we know is that we had 3 words left and the final clue was evacuation 3. I can see port, and I can see vacuum, and we can try to interpret reds clues, but we can't be certain until we pick. There is one gray clue left and the assassin, but if we miss our win here I don't think we get another clue.
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January 21st, 2020, 07:23
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Let's see if we can follow all the clues:
Cheap, I think was meant for PIN and NOVEL, though I'm not sure what the third word was.
The problem is that I can connect four words to Kevlar even after the fact. PARACHUTE, TRUNK, and HELICOPTER, and ORGAN. HELICOPTER is the weakest connection, so it may have been clued only by Evacuation.
Grocer was for CHOCOLATE and LEMON. It was an unilimted clue so we don't know how many it actually connects to.
So, I think that Evacuation 3 was a re-clue for PARACHUTE and the first clue for HELICOPTER.
OK, I've reviewed, but I've come no further to an answer. PORT could be clued by cheap (cheap goods at a port), Grocer (goods coming in at a port), and Evacuation (leave through a port). But VACUUM could also be clued by Grocer (buy one there) and Evacuation (suck all the air out and share the same root). In other words, there are more connections to PORT but stronger connections to VACUUM.
I think I go with VACUUM because the better clue for PARACHUTE-HELICOPTER-PORT is Escape 3, which avoids the strong connection to VACUUM.
January 21st, 2020, 08:18
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Having seen JR4 give clues during the last few games, I've seen him habitually of giving clues without being specific as to which words he is cluing. For example, he would give a 3 clue with the intention of hitting w, x and either y or z. Don't know if that makes reverse-engineering the clues any easier, but regardless all of us are on board with VACUUM now so here we go:
Point to VACUUM
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