Turn 91
ALRIGHT. That was an eventful turn. Let's talk about what happened.
This was what I found that triggered all of this. Clearly he intends to protect AT's capital. It's an interesting move because you'll notice AT's border cities are practically empty. He easily could have captured them, but he isn't doing that. I think he concluded that if I took the capital and he took all the southern cities, I'm still favored, and in the window where all the culture is gone he would be highly vulnerable to my superior Knights. I think that makes sense. I assumed he was going to move into his capital and defend it there given my unit gifting assumption. So I went ahead with the turn and made a few choices. Namely, I declared war on him. I informed him we needed to observe a turn split, and offered to let him continue to go first and have a 3-way split, or I could double-move and he could join AT's half. He preferred the latter. So, in we go.
Won that one.
Definitely won that one. That allowed me to capture his worker (the extra unit is someone else's. I added another pair of CKNs to that hill. I can't really take that city, but I can be annoying. It was at this point I offered him 200g for 10T of peace. The feeling was that would allow me to safely take AT's city, which I can't do with that stack added. I expected him to reject this, as it's still not a good deal for him. It was at this point the whole last 24 hours happened, but we seem to be fine now. I wasn't sure if he'd actually done any unit gifting, but his working in the organizing thread indicated he had done it because he worded it as "from now on." This makes some sense, as I noticed several spears showed up in AT's capital out of nowhere while he was still clearly whipping archers. I suspect Commodore gifted him a few. Not a big deal, as the HA/longbow stack is the real issue here as it would just stuff too many bodies into the capital for me to be able to handle just yet.
Since I can't take AT's capital, I might as well grab this city real quick. Once I secure it, I'll try to pivot and see if I can pressure Commodore some while I continue to add Knights (4 more end of turn). I can't let this drag on too long, because Cornflakes can really do some stuff here pretty soon from great people and golden ages. Commodore seems to view this setup as pretty zero sum. I understand the reasoning, but I'm not sure I quite agree. That said, I don't have much choice but to play into it, so I will. We'll see what I can do. I think we're going to be locked into war for quite awhile because he won't want to give me 10T to capture the capital. AT is going to have to live a lot longer than he probably hoped thanks to this. I'm not sure if he views that as a positive or negative.
Post-GA demos. As the newer cities come online, I expect this to start to improve pretty quickly. My break-even techrate is down to 30% though, largely due to larger army and more cities. I have huge maintenance costs everywhere. I'm going to pick up Banking here pretty soon and do a quick round of Bank whips when I get a chance. Thanks to FIN + OR netting me 125% towards them in addition to my low science slider, whipping them in seems really efficient. I rarely build them in games, but it feels OK here.
ALRIGHT. That was an eventful turn. Let's talk about what happened.
This was what I found that triggered all of this. Clearly he intends to protect AT's capital. It's an interesting move because you'll notice AT's border cities are practically empty. He easily could have captured them, but he isn't doing that. I think he concluded that if I took the capital and he took all the southern cities, I'm still favored, and in the window where all the culture is gone he would be highly vulnerable to my superior Knights. I think that makes sense. I assumed he was going to move into his capital and defend it there given my unit gifting assumption. So I went ahead with the turn and made a few choices. Namely, I declared war on him. I informed him we needed to observe a turn split, and offered to let him continue to go first and have a 3-way split, or I could double-move and he could join AT's half. He preferred the latter. So, in we go.
Won that one.
Definitely won that one. That allowed me to capture his worker (the extra unit is someone else's. I added another pair of CKNs to that hill. I can't really take that city, but I can be annoying. It was at this point I offered him 200g for 10T of peace. The feeling was that would allow me to safely take AT's city, which I can't do with that stack added. I expected him to reject this, as it's still not a good deal for him. It was at this point the whole last 24 hours happened, but we seem to be fine now. I wasn't sure if he'd actually done any unit gifting, but his working in the organizing thread indicated he had done it because he worded it as "from now on." This makes some sense, as I noticed several spears showed up in AT's capital out of nowhere while he was still clearly whipping archers. I suspect Commodore gifted him a few. Not a big deal, as the HA/longbow stack is the real issue here as it would just stuff too many bodies into the capital for me to be able to handle just yet.
Since I can't take AT's capital, I might as well grab this city real quick. Once I secure it, I'll try to pivot and see if I can pressure Commodore some while I continue to add Knights (4 more end of turn). I can't let this drag on too long, because Cornflakes can really do some stuff here pretty soon from great people and golden ages. Commodore seems to view this setup as pretty zero sum. I understand the reasoning, but I'm not sure I quite agree. That said, I don't have much choice but to play into it, so I will. We'll see what I can do. I think we're going to be locked into war for quite awhile because he won't want to give me 10T to capture the capital. AT is going to have to live a lot longer than he probably hoped thanks to this. I'm not sure if he views that as a positive or negative.
Post-GA demos. As the newer cities come online, I expect this to start to improve pretty quickly. My break-even techrate is down to 30% though, largely due to larger army and more cities. I have huge maintenance costs everywhere. I'm going to pick up Banking here pretty soon and do a quick round of Bank whips when I get a chance. Thanks to FIN + OR netting me 125% towards them in addition to my low science slider, whipping them in seems really efficient. I rarely build them in games, but it feels OK here.
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In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."