December 18th, 2020, 20:38
(This post was last modified: December 18th, 2020, 20:38 by NobleHelium.)
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Oof. I did not notice that Harry could grab sheep, corn and pig with the plains hill. Definitely a case of creator myopia there with the intended city placement. Ah well, can't do anything about it now.
December 21st, 2020, 11:30
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Harry/Hitru think the map is smaller than average, and TBS thinks the map is bigger than average. 
December 23rd, 2020, 13:04
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It's funny that Cornflakes seems to be the only one to go for an island city and immediate ICTRs.
The Harry hivemind mentions the island as a possibility, but then never comes back to it.
(December 18th, 2020, 19:51)Old Harry Wrote: The first is to take an agriculture/fish/mining civ and settle like this. With a possibility of settling the island and getting ICTRs from t0 (Charriu's suggestion) if it makes sense. Alternatively we settle to share the pig and get the elephant.
TBS discards an island start after being open to it.
(December 19th, 2020, 19:00)The Black Sword Wrote: I'm thinking we probably don't want the island city after all. Anything it builds is stuck on the island until I tech Sailing and build a Galley anyway.
Gavagai doesn't discuss where or what he intends to build, and pindicator had more opinions on PoE builds.
December 30th, 2020, 06:42
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I gotta say this going to be an interesting game. A bunch of top tier players.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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(January 6th, 2021, 15:20)pindicator Wrote: 
Also, is that a flood plains grassland down by the sheep?
Whoops.
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Yeah whoops. That is a horse tile, so I probably edited it at some point and messed up.
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So I decided to move the gold closer to Cornflakes's start because I was concerned that it could be contested by his southeast neighbor too easily in the previous spot. I did not realize that the current scenario could happen. I have to say that all these problems would not be an issue if the map could simply be bigger. I really don't think there should be any more advanced start games with this small a map.
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Between the difficulties in making a map for advanced start and the intense thought and time being taken. It is easy to understand why not a lot of these get played (as interesting and fascinating as I find it to lurk). If you mess up the original setup you are significantly behind.
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A floodplains grassland horse tile...yummy.
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January 12th, 2021, 22:15
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I don't know if it helped this game, but in PB53 I asked this question to smarter people than me:
Who won advanced start set up? What do people think is good / what mistakes were made?
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