[PB 55] Miguelito and Mjmd help Amicalola avoid a repetition of last time

[Amicalola]

Also, here our the demos after our civic swap and at 100% research. Not bad! Uh, I'm not sure if they'll be so impressive in 2 turns. I am researching CoL>Bureacracy, to upgrade our axes into something useful, get irrigation (which is good for many of our cities) and get courthouses up and running in the far-flung edges of our empire.

[Amicalola]

I have noticed that recently pretty much everyone except Civac and myself are playng <15 minute turns. I don't especially want to concede, as I am both learning much from this game, and think a dogpile of Civac in the future could be quite fun. However, if I am the last one in the game to have not conceded, I do not want to be 'that guy' that is holding up the game while no one else has fun. So, this is an official concession, IF everyone else has too.

[Amicalola]

Also, Lewwyn and Superdeath made peace, which bodes ill. Lewwyn has to send his still-sizeable army somewhere...

[Mjmd]

Do you think a dog pile of Civac could work? Having fun and learning is always good.

Now that you have open borders with Lewwyn it would be hard for Lewwyn to backstab you (especially after losing a non zero amount to SD), but good to keep an eye on. WHIP WHIP WHIP some knights and cats to take those northern cities.

Now I personally rarely post graphs / demo's, but how does everything look? What is the state of the game outside your area? How is Gav doing specifically and do you think Commodore can make headway down south with reinforcements / you putting pressure on in the north?

[Amicalola]

Here are some graphs and demos:

We and Civac are in a GA at the end of the graphs, though the demos are current and non-GA (Civac is still in one). You can also see Lewwyn's and Jowy's GAs, a while earlier.

I would put us in a clear no. 2 position in terms of pure food/hammer/commerce output right now, but the gap is huge. Especially in regard to Production and Population (Civac is SO far ahead in those two!!). It's pretty telling that number 2 in production is less than half number one. While I think a future dogpile would be fun and certainly instructive, even that feels unlikely to stop Civac at this point. I also think we are very likely to be backstabbed by Lewwyn at some point if it happens, because he has no real way of hitting Civac himself. So I suppose I would like to concede if everyone else has and I am holding people hostage in the game, but if others would like to play on I am certainly happy to do that too.

[Amicalola]

We captured Enuma Elish this turn. I didn't think it was worth it to bombard. We lost an embarrassing number of units, thanks in part to poor luck, and in part to a couple of poor decisions on my part.



We killed 3 Longbowmen and 2 Pikemen, and lost 5 catapults, 1 swordsman, 2 axemen, 3 war elephants and a horse archer. I told you it was embarrassing.  


The poor decision that had the most impact was that I thought I'd use the trebs in combat halfway through the fight so that they didn't die, and thus didn't bombard before I sent in some units. Then I realised the trebs would not be fighting in this battle at all, and bombarded. But I could have bombarded earlier and perhaps won an extra fight, or at least got a couple that weren't flawless losses. I think if I'd spent longer thinking about it beforehand, I would have realised this ahead of time. Ah well, something to remember.

The poor luck was losing a 63% and 81% fight, and getting several flawless losses in the 10% area. Not horrific by any means, and I think my poor play had a bigger impact as it made this more likely in the first place. Now we are whipping knights/trebs to prepare to attack Cursed Crater in a few turns.

Edit: Note, I think if a dogpile of Civac did happen, it has to happen after Cursed Crater and Fire Spear are taken. We wouldn't have time to fight at the capital. Realistically it should have happened 10 turns ago, and I should have attacked Civac instead of Jowy, most likely. Not sure though, it's hard to see how the game plays out from there. We ourselves would certainly be in a much worse position had that occurred.

[Amicalola]

Also: I sent my archer to check out the SD/Lewwyn war, but then they made peace. Superdeath's megastack is healing close to our border. He really did kill a lot of units, based on how many are healing now.

[Amicalola]

Do you think a dog pile of Civac could work? Having fun and learning is always good.

Now that you have open borders with Lewwyn it would be hard for Lewwyn to backstab you (especially after losing a non zero amount to SD), but good to keep an eye on. WHIP WHIP WHIP some knights and cats to take those northern cities.

Now I personally rarely post graphs / demo's, but how does everything look? What is the state of the game outside your area? How is Gav doing specifically and do you think Commodore can make headway down south with reinforcements / you putting pressure on in the north?

 


As far as your other questions, I glanced over them earlier I'm sorry.

Gavagai has very respectable power but terrible GNP, so I am guessing it is a huge number of classical units. Most likely WEs/Catapults/Swords/War Chariots, in some combination. I think Civac can probably(?) blow him out of the water, but it would take a large number of his troops to do it. Civac is currently sending all of his units in that direction but they are at peace. I expect him to attack again afterwards.



I think Commodore will possibly make headway if we attack the capital, but it will take bombing the defenses down and bringing many more catapults, so not for at least 5 turns. Quite possibly 10 turns. He does seem to be committing more troops though, so I am less worried about a peace from him. It's such a shame he lost that first battle! He had way more catapults beforehand. I expect Shimatsuken to be about as difficult to crack as Elementary was; there are better promoted units, in equal numbers, but there is no hill.

[Amicalola]

We have 187 production. Civac is at 579 (GA). Average is 190. We are second.

[Amicalola]

I sent the people who matter an offer to war with Civac in 5 turns. So Lewwyn and Commodore, with Gavagai just presumed to be fighting. I also asked everybody to cancel their deals, and did so myself. Then I realised Civac is also in Mercantilism, so I probably just painted a huge target on my head. Oops.

I have to admit, even I have started playing on autopilot; I definitely should have checked that first.