[PB56] NobleHelium Tells It Like It Is

[novice]

I think Noble's request is reasonable, for what it's worth. (Probably not much.)

[NobleHelium]

I really don't understand these responses, I thought there was plenty of precedent for this. In this very thread Harry says it should happen, and even I said that it's only necessary if players could be attacking the same city or similar, which is exactly what's happening now.

Even when you're on the same side of a turn split you should (usually) still observe a split with your team mate, just in case, so it doesn't really matter which position Amicola grabbed, 3-way splits do sometimes slow things down.

This was also covered in the tech thread.

Since this is relevant to the turn-pace discussion; how do war splits work for 2v1 wars? Should the player that plays last in the '2' continue to play last of them?

Strictly speaking yes.
For example if 2 war partners were attacking a city together, and then the one usually playing first waits because his buddy has brought the siege then that's scummy. As is going first to snatch a conquest before your "ally" can get it when you usually played second. Now if both allies operate in different theatres you could argue that for sake of turnpace you don't have to be as strict, but it's foggy, because doing so gives away spoiler info. So if possible yes, try to maintain a turnsplit with your ally, if reasonably possible.

Of course the opinion of the actual players in this game has more weight than mine.

[The Black Sword]

I'm still waiting to hear back from one of the 3, the other two are happy with your proposed turnsplit.

[NobleHelium]

Okay, thanks. I didn't realize you were waiting for responses.

[The Black Sword]

Hey Noble, you are good to play, the order is civac -> Laz -> Gira -> Noble.

[Charriu]

Are 3 hours enough for you or do you need more?

[NobleHelium]

Should be OK, I'll play as soon as possible. Thanks.

[NobleHelium]

Awesome, Tarkeel logged in while I was playing the turn and crashed the server. Amica is about to join in the dogpile and will probably declare next turn. I think he logged in and moved a bunch of units post turn end on the previous turn when he got the meta information that something may be afoot due to the pause, but I of course have no concrete evidence that he changed anything. He did log in for over half an hour though and certainly could have changed a bunch of city builds and moved a bunch of units.

For the record, please don't log into your (teammate's) civ while I am playing the turn if you're about to declare war on me. I make moves based upon the scouting information I receive and you really should not be moving units after I do said scouting. I actually intentionally delayed scouting on the previous turn because I figured there was a good chance that Amica would log in again during the pause and possibly make changes.

[NobleHelium]

Nice, I can't answer Amica's post without telling him that I know he's attacking next turn. Awesome.

I'm really tired of this.

Keep in mind I would have finished the turn already if Tarkeel hadn't CRASHED THE FUCKING SERVER. Oh and it's 4 AM where I am.

[NobleHelium]

If Amica insists that he has the right to log in and make changes, then you can log in for me and declare war on him. Thanks.