[PB66] Tarkeel and civac explore the untamed wilds

[Tarkeel]

Welcome to the untamed wilds of Norrath

[Tarkeel]

Pre-game

• Starting screenshot (Mjmd-version)
  
• Starting screenshot (Krill-version)
  
• Opponent overview
  

Notable turns

• T0 (4000 BC): Landfall
  
• T17 (3320 BC): First Contact
  
• T50 (2000 BC): State of the Realm
  
• T69 (1240 BC): The First War of Grecian Aggression
  
• T79 (900 BC): The Egyption Settling Race
  
• T83 (800 BC): The First Egyptian War
  
• T100 (375 BC): State of the Realm II
  
• T125 (250 AD): State of the Realm III
  
• T135 (500 AD): A Wonderful Time
  
• T140 (600 AD): World Overview
  
• T150 (800 AD): State of the Realm IV
  
• T156 (920 AD): The Second War of Grecian Agression
  
• T160 (1000 AD): The Brief American War
  
• T164 (1040 AD): The Second Egyptian War
  
• T175 (1150 AD): State of the Realm V
  
• T200 (1400 AD): State of the Realm VI
  
• T205 (1450 AD): The Viking Invasion
  
• T218 (1540 AD): The Age of Golden Industry
  
• T250 (1700 AD): State of the World War
  

Cities

• Kaladim (T0)
  
• Dagnor's Cauldron (T33)
  
• Kelethin (T46)
  
• Felwithe (T52)
  
• Ak'Anon (T53)
  
• Crushbone (T65)
  
• Kedge Keep (T68)
  
• New Crushbone (T74)
  
• Firiona Vie (T78)
  
• Paineel (T85)
  
• Erud's Crossing (T91)
  
• The Hole (T100)
  
• Erudin (T103)
  
• Steamfount Mnts (T112)
  
• Unrest Estate (T125)
  
• Overthere (T129)
  
• New Steamfount (T160)
  
• Sebilis (T175)
  
• Dreadlands (T176)
  
• Sleepers Tomb (T229)
  
• Shadowhaven (T237)
  
• Echo Caverns (T249)
  

[Tarkeel]

I'm not going to do a full trait analysis this time, not much has changed since PB62, but that game did make me re-evaluate IMP:

Main benefit is that you really don't have to think about where to get the next settler from; any city (including fresh ones) can just freshly two-whip when needed at size 4.

[Mjmd]

Note I may still very well change anything outside the cross.

[Tarkeel]

Thanks Mjmd. What was that you said about lush starts earlier? :P

Did you settle on large or standard for worldsize?

[Mjmd]

So you like it, you don't like it?

Size is standard.

[Tarkeel]

Initial thoughts: That's a lot of resources. Sure, a sheep isn't a pig or a cow, but it's s decent tile. Hunting looks important here with both deer and ivory, and with three luxuries available already CHA does not look too interesting. Not too many hills, but 6 chopable forests. Looks like a commerce-focused capital.

Civac and me had some initial talks about what to play, me favoring retrying Spain on a better suited map, or perhaps Germany. This looks like the case for the latter. My thinking is that with 11 players, most of whom are pretty good, this is a game that might be decided late enough for Germany to really shine. While the factory is "only 1 tech earlier", that's misleading due to the Corporation requirement. Without a beeline you're looking at factories 10 turns ahead of everyone else. Riesengarde also looks enticing, and might be bulbed for early.

ORG might not be mandatory with a standard size, we're looking at fast early teching and IIRC higher distance maintenance but lower max maintenance per city.

[Tarkeel]

Had a chat with civac before snake list was posted, and we were interested in the following 5 civs, depending on snake pick:
1. America with PHI
2. Germany with ORG
3. Azteca with Asoka (SPI/ORG)
4. Ottoman with EXP
5. Zulu with AGG

As the first (and last) picker it's always possible to possibly snag IND, so Nebby (PHI/IND) of America or Roosevelt (ORG/IND) of Germany.

[Tarkeel]

We were just about to announce picking Julius Caesar and praying that nobody's interested in Germany. While America is good, Germany has such a fast start that we're not quire sure how to play it.

[Krill]

Start 7 - Tarkeel and Civic