[NO 73 PLAYERS] Lurkers Monitoring Variance

[Tarkeel]

I really wouldn't discount Civil Service and T0 bureaucracy, especially if you've got the boosted start.

[Krill]

Sorry, should have been clear. That is what I would want to try out, not what I think is best.

[greenline]

I keep noticing players who forget that one of the last BtS patches nerfed Cristo Redentor so that it only gives you minimum anarchy turns for a swap instead of no anarchy.

I don't think that's true. Christo Redentor has a 1 turn cooldown but no anarchy.

I stand corrected. Maybe this was a change in CtH.

[Thoth]

I'm unclear on the synergy between Vultures and Nationalism?

Essentially it is a counter pick if the tech picks go sideways.

Imagine if the tech picks go something like Artillery>econ tech>Rocketry>Gunpowder. What do you do, because you know that early warfare is going to happen? You need a high strength unit to deal with everyone else. Maybe Rifling would be the best choice. I suspect it is better than Nationalism, but it's worth considering with Boudicca/Sumeria because:

35 hammer strength 6.6 units that can take charge can actually handle artillery. There is the dual happy 10 turn timers for whips and drafts so there are a lot of ways to micro manage unit production for efficiency, there are no happy constraints with a 25 hammer +2 happy building (even though base BtS), which can be plowed into growth on a high food map, and the UB can be abused to get vision/open up tech stealing.

I don't think it's a a great plan, but in base BtS there would always be an AGG leader available, Sumeria is not going to be a highly rated pick either, so there may be a way to pick the best start and then see what happens down the line.

Personally, I prefer the idea of Joao of Inca with Communism and use the thousand warrior defence if someone comes calling.

Ok, I see it.  Drafting 35 hammer units from size 7 cities doesn't strike me as a great game plan though.  


I think Civil Service and Warrior x6 as an opening build would prove quite effective depending on map size.   A complete map sweep probably isn't doable unless the map is quite small but it should manage 2-3 kills at least.

[Commodore]

The shang-ra-la start really is going to be begging for a rush, Oxy better have a plan for defending that super-site from an anti-tank+arty on turn 40.

[Tarkeel]

You need a galley to reach it though.

[Thoth]

Take Satellites to reveal the world map.

Use the starting screenshots to locate your neighbour(s) on t0.

Bum rush them with warriors.

??

Profit.

[mackoti]

The shang-ra-la start really is going to be begging for a rush, Oxy better have a plan for defending that super-site from an anti-tank+arty on turn 40.

Do we know that they are one near another? Perhaps rifling will be stil free on return. I think even military science will be good enough with an agresiv leader.

[Krill]

Has anyone figured out how to attack into a player with Arty and AT? Other than a rush? I can't figure out how to do it, minus the odd naval raze etc. Luddite might be functionally unkillable.

[Commodore]

Has anyone figured out how to attack into a player with Arty and AT? Other than a rush? I can't figure out how to do it, minus the odd naval raze etc. Luddite might be functionally unkillable.

SAM Infantry.

More seriously, though, a pillaging force of chariots can gut him fine, he'll be able to survive but with enough effort he should be containable.