February 7th, 2011, 12:51
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There's something I've been wondering about for a while. All of the SP events have starting saves that are still hosted and played to this day, as well as replayed, but we don't have anything like that for the MP events.
Is there anything against a new group of players replaying one of the games that has already finished, such as PBEM1 and 7, PB1 and 2? I know the maps are no longer spoiled, and it would require a bunch of people to replay instead of just one player against the AI so would be harder to get started, but it could be fun to watch.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23
Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6: PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
February 7th, 2011, 13:02
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I love the PB2/PBEM7 maps, would be interesting to see another game on them.
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February 7th, 2011, 14:56
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I'm not sure there's a whole lot of interest in comparing different games on the same map. It works well for single player events because the AIs are fairly consistent, and a particular game plan will turn out more or less the same for each player. But I think that sort of activity would be much less satisfying in multiplayer where history is shaped by attacks and alliances rather than a solo game plan. If we replay PBEM2 for example, and Persia doesn't attack America, it's a totally different game and there's little worthwhile to compare downstream from there.
PBEM4 is our example of prior art. Is anybody even paying attention and comparing the games at all? (I'm ded-lurking with Kylearan there so haven't read the lurker threads.)
That said, there's nothing against it, go ahead if you can find a group of interested players.
February 7th, 2011, 15:18
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Not saying the games would be identical, one could simply repick civs and randomize start locations. PB2 map is technically playable with 4, 5, or 10 players though it does technically need 2 fixes (HRE river + Greek Fe->Cu). In fact, a lot of options such as barbs, difficulty, tech trading, even huts are changeable.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23
Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6: PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
February 7th, 2011, 15:20
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While I do admire the maps of PB2 & PBEM7 particularly, I think it would be tough to replay them without people simply using the successful methods of the previous players.
There would also be no mystery about the map at all, 'Centralia' or the 'Far Land' would be known about and likely who their neighbours are before they meet them.
However, I wouldn't rule out the idea as I would love to see the PB2 map used again (and play on it) if we could get new players. I mean there is still the diplo side which can change it rapidly - and it would be interesting how it develops if there aren't the 2 early exits of Byzantium & Zulu like there was last time.
It would need new civs and perhaps a bit of resource swapping just to make it so that the people can't simply copy the dotmaps of their 'predecessors' - but its within the realms of doable
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February 7th, 2011, 17:08
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I would love to see take 2 of PBEM7... I think the map was one of the best, and I still think it was too bad that the far continent never got a chance in that game. If there was enough interest in other people for playing it, I would consider signing up - that is if the invitation was open to former players.
February 7th, 2011, 17:20
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Get 4 more players and the file from the lurker thread and you're set.
Current games (All): RtR: PB80 Civ 6: PBEM23
Ended games (Selection): BTS games: PB1, PB3, PBEM2, PBEM4, PBEM5B, PBEM50. RB mod games: PB5, PB15, PB27, PB37, PB42, PB46, PB71. FFH games: PBEMVII, PBEMXII. Civ 6: PBEM22 Games ded lurked: PB18
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