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[no players] Area 51: What Lurks Therein?
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Here is what I have for a map. I made a few tweaks from the random start and I'm willing to make a couple more. Feedback appreciated.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1116...wordWBSave
The players seem to only want 18 combos generated, but with them adding a 5th player, I generated 24 anyway.
Genghis AGG IMP of Carthage FISH MINE Toku AGG PRO of Holy Rome HUNT MYST Qin IND PRO of Japan FISH WHEE Hammy ORG AGG of France AGRI WHEE Monty SPI AGG of Greece FISH HUNT Sury EXP CRE of Spain FISH MYST Brennus SPI CHA of Arabia WHEE MYST Augustus IND IMP of Maya MINE MYST Washington EXP CHA of Germany HUNT MINE Julius ORG IMP of Mongolia HUNT WHEE Bismarck EXP IND of Aztec HUNT MYST Pericles CRE PHI of England FISH MINE Pacal FIN EXP of Celtia HUNT MYST Willem FIN CRE of Mali WHEE MINE Cyrus IMP CHA of Byzantium WHEE MYST Alex PHI AGG of Egypt AGRI WHEE Nappy ORG CHA of Russia HUNT MINE Justin SPI IMP of India FAST WORKERS Charlemagne IMP PRO of Sumeria AGRI WHEE Ramesses SPI IND of China AGRI MINE Joao EXP IMP of Khmer HUNT MINE Darius FIN ORG of Ottomans AGRI WHEE Gandhi SPI PHI of Inca AGRI MYST Wang Kon FIN PRO of Zulu AGRI HUNT
Thoughts: Surprisingly flat in places. Looks decent, though some players have nothing but AH food. All bodies of water can be connect via forts and cities. strat resources are balanced well enough for copper, horse, iron, doubt the rest really matter. I think the only change I would do, is that china on the plains hill, think it's china, has grass cow and grass hill sheep. I'd probably swap one of those food resources for an irrigated rice or wheat, and maybe move the ivory a bit closer (or give them a furs within 6 tiles). Everyone has at least 1 metal happy other than that civ they can get with a little bit of effort.
I think those are the only two changes (happy and AH>grain) I'd really consider. (June 13th, 2013, 17:55)SevenSpirits Wrote: The players seem to only want 18 combos generated, but with them adding a 5th player, I generated 24 anyway. Can get rid of 7 easily enough. Just means another 7 need to be removed, right?
My ratings of the combos, with empty lines demarcating the ones I think we have to cut on the top and bottom. IMO we are looking for a clump of 7 or 8 with the smallest difference between top and bottom, plus the next 2-3 below them to round out the set of 10.
Willem FIN CRE of Mali WHEE MINE 19 Darius FIN ORG of Ottomans AGRI WHEE 18 Pacal FIN EXP of Celtia HUNT MYST 18 Justin SPI IMP of India MINE MYST 15.5 Bismarck EXP IND of Aztec HUNT MYST 15 Sury EXP CRE of Spain FISH MYST 15 Gandhi SPI PHI of Inca AGRI MYST 14.5 Ramesses SPI IND of China AGRI MINE 13.5 Pericles CRE PHI of England FISH MINE 13 Joao EXP IMP of Khmer HUNT MINE 13 Washington EXP CHA of Germany HUNT MINE 12.5 Julius ORG IMP of Mongolia HUNT WHEE 12 Wang Kon FIN PRO of Zulu AGRI HUNT 10.5 Hammy ORG AGG of France AGRI WHEE 10.5 Augustus IND IMP of Maya MINE MYST 10.5 Nappy ORG CHA of Russia HUNT MINE 10 Brennus SPI CHA of Arabia WHEE MYST 9.5 Monty SPI AGG of Greece FISH HUNT 8.5 Alex PHI AGG of Egypt AGRI WHEE 8 Cyrus IMP CHA of Byzantium WHEE MYST 7 Genghis AGG IMP of Carthage FISH MINE 6.5 Charlemagne IMP PRO of Sumeria AGRI WHEE 5.5 Qin IND PRO of Japan FISH WHEE 4.5 Toku AGG PRO of Holy Rome HUNT MYST 1.5
I think you should scrap india if there are a bunch of starts that require AH to get an improved food resource and others that only need Agri, other than that the list looks fine IMO.
June 13th, 2013, 19:10
(This post was last modified: June 13th, 2013, 19:10 by SevenSpirits.)
It's reasonable to cut India, since it's hard to judge its power, but I think there is only one start that has trouble with India's starting techs. That's the China start, which has both PH plant and also just AH food. Two notes about this: 1) You suggested replacing one of the AH resources with a grain anyway, and 2) They would likely prefer an EXP choice over India anyway due to their PH-next-to-PF setup.
The Ottoman start is the other one with only AH food, and it can get AH via hunting just 1 turn (1 beaker, actually) behind when the worker would like to start improving the pig. So it's not a big issue there. In reply to your map comments: I am a bit hesitant to buff China further since they have the only plains hill start, already. I did upgrade their plains hill sheep to a grass hill sheep previously. I'm good with giving them a fur, though. My plan is to replace their second-closest wine with it - the one to the northwest of their capital. |
