Gavagai is trapped in Hindu hell. Spoilers thread.

[Gavagai]

Nothing yet to talk about but I want to have a place for Krill to put my starting screenshot in.

[Krill]

Gavagai

[Gavagai]

Financial will still be good... And given wharf it's a great beauro/academy capital. Thinking Elizabeth.

[Gavagai]

Ended up with Willem. I mostly want phil for early Academy and for this purpose cre is more useful.
Also, I really hate this new productive and agricultural traits. They just break late game and can be used only with an assumption that no one will really play until late game.

[Gavagai]

Ethiopia as a second pick. Why? Well, for this start not to be completely awkward I need Hunting paired with something useful. I had only two such options left: Persia and Ethiopia. Both have sucky UB but Ethiopian UU is better.

[Gavagai]

Btw, a lot of people took a Hunting civ. I guess, everyone has a Hunting resource nearby, it seems to be a fashion for mapmakers. Really, guys, you should drop it already, these beavers of convinience are totally overdone in my taste.
(Sorry if this complain sounds ridiculous.)

[WilliamLP]

If I ever make a map, I'll be sure to make the beavers inconvenient for you.

[Gavagai]

If I ever make a map, I'll be sure to make the beavers inconvenient for you.

I'll take it as agreement.

[Gavagai]

So, how exactly financial was nerfed? Well, financial bonus was delayed by 10 turns for riverside cottages, 20 turns for non-riverside and until after the wharf for coastal tiles. Also completely removed for riverside windmills but who even cares about that. Is that a significant nerf? Yes, indeed! Is financial still the best trait in the game? I think, yes. Well, until early industrial age when agg/pro will break everything. But agg/pro are stupid traits which, I'm sure, will be altered or removed at some point. Who cares about them.

[Gavagai]

Also, why thread title? Well, because naming theme.
(Seriously, once you discover Hinduism, you'll never run out of names.)