Double-Fun - pitboss game (14)

[YossarianLives]

FYI, team dinosaur did get a second teammate, whiteye. They're still looking for a dedlurker, though.

Arkipeller, your friend can join team Blame Caledorn if he wants, we're currently collecting dedlurkers!

[Maga_R]

FYI, team dinosaur did get a second teammate, whiteye.

Great to hear that .

Arkipeller, your friend can join team Blame Caledorn if he wants, we're currently collecting dedlurkers!

NOOOOOO! You guys are over the decent number of dedlurkers already!

Next time we should have a rule that one team cannot have more dedlurkers that all other teams combined!

[Krill]

Just to remind people, you can pick EITHER leader OR civ with your first pick.

[Lord Parkin]

I don't agree with Krill that Emperor + Toroid is unplayable. But I do think people have some misconceptions about what "difficulty" means. Playing an Emperor MP game doesn't mean you are playing a harder/higher level game than people playing a game on prince. It means just one thing: techs are more expensive compared to units and buildings, than in the prince game. (This is both due to increased tech costs and increased maintenance costs. Both have the effect of raising the amount of commerce you need to generate to research a given tech.)

Imagine tech costs vs production costs on a sliding scale. At one end, you could play on a tiny flat map on settler difficulty, and techs would cost very little compared to units and buildings. In this game, tech pace is ridiculously fast, and units become obsolete shortly after they become available. You don't have time to build most buildings because you're unlocking everything too fast. At the other end (a huge deity toroid), production is plentiful compared to tech pace. You can build most good buidlings everywhere, there's not much need to prioritize. You can easily afford as many units as you want, in fact you abstain from building as many as you can because the maintenance is significant. Wonders are a bit overpowered because everyone has surplus production. There's a heavy focus on cottages and specialists. ORG and especially FIN are even stronger than normal, and FIN is the best trait by a wide margin. Lots of civs become practically unplayable because starting techs are so expensive so having bad ones is terrible. Having good commerce land at and around your capital becomes really important.

Game difficulty is a tool to adjust the balance of commerce vs production. RB games seem to have settled on approximately prince/toroidal or monarch/cylindrical as favorites, with "standard" size for small games and "large" size for larger games. (Note: Quick speed games sometimes get slightly higher difficulty in order to make warfare a bit more viable by slowing tech pace compared to unit movement rate.)

If you are voting for higher difficulty than that, I see it as deciding you want cottages and FIN to be stronger, not that you are more skilled players or anything like that.

This is an excellent summary, thanks Seven. Many people misunderstand the concept of difficulty level in multiplayer, and this post concisely sets the record straight. (Perhaps you should post it somewhere more prominently too.)

I'm a bit too drunk to do anything productive concerning the map.

I'd be curious to see what a drunk map would look like, but happy to play on a sober one.

Snake pick order from random.org

8
10
3
6
1
2
4
7
5
9

i.e. 8th picks 1st and last.

Numbers refer to this list:

1. Team Orgynized - Lord Parkin / Arkipeller / Magno_uy (with WilliamLP dedlurking)
2. Team Blame Caledorn - YossarianLives / Caledorn (with Scooter, Old Harry and Cheater Hater dedlurking)
3. Team Master and Margarita - Slaze / Maga_R (with Jovan Kukic dedlurking)
4. Team Care Bears - Yuufo / Bisons
5. Team My Little Marathon Cannibal Pony - Classical_Hero / Halvgud
6. Bowsling / Aivoturso
7. Dick76 / DMOC
8. Team Eagles & Condors - Kurumi / HBHR (with Oxyphenbutazone)
9. Barteq / Teammate (with Harami dedlurking)
10. Raptorous mike looking for a teammate and dedlurkers mike

Thanks Plako! Something new to discuss at last.

[Lord Parkin]

1. Team Orgynized - Lord Parkin / Arkipeller / Magno_uy (with WilliamLP dedlurking)

Please add Dp101 to Team Orgynized as a dedlurker and official Dr. Nomadic impersonator.

[Maga_R]

Updated team info and pick order:

8. Team Eagles & Condors - Kurumi / HBHR (with Oxyphenbutazone dedlurking)
10. Team Dinosaurs - Whiteye / Raptorous
3. Team Master and Margarita - Slaze / Maga_R (with Jovan Kukic dedlurking)
6. Bowsling / Aivoturso
1. Team Orgynized - Lord Parkin / Arkipeller / Magno_uy (with WilliamLP and Dp101 dedlurking)
2. Team Blame Caledorn - YossarianLives / Caledorn (with Scooter, Old Harry and Cheater Hater dedlurking)
4. Team Care Bears - Yuufo / Bisons
7. Dick76 / DMOC
5. Team My Little Marathon Cannibal Pony - Classical_Hero / Halvgud
9. Barteq / Geo (with Harami dedlurking)
9. Barteq / Geo (with Harami dedlurking)
5. Team My Little Marathon Cannibal Pony - Classical_Hero / Halvgud
7. Dick76 / DMOC
4. Team Care Bears - Yuufo / Bisons
2. Team Blame Caledorn - YossarianLives / Caledorn (with Scooter, Old Harry and Cheater Hater dedlurking)
1. Team Orgynized - Lord Parkin / Arkipeller / Magno_uy (with WilliamLP and Dp101 dedlurking)
6. Bowsling / Aivoturso
3. Team Master and Margarita - Slaze / Maga_R (with Jovan Kukic dedlurking)
10. Team Dinosaurs - Whiteye / Raptorous
8. Team Eagles & Condors - Kurumi / HBHR (with Oxyphenbutazone dedlurking)

[Arkipeller]

I got a friend that would like to lurk a team. He is not bound to any of the teams.

Perhaps he would like to join Raptorous?

Nah. He wants to join us as dedlurker

[Raptorous]

I got a friend that would like to lurk a team. He is not bound to any of the teams.

Perhaps he would like to join Raptorous?

Nah. He wants to join us as dedlurker

welcome to Dt team

[Barteq]

My new Teammate is Geo. He will create his account when he will be back from his vacation (in 10 days).

[plako]

I've screenshots ready. Have the settings now been fully decided and I can start presenting them in spoiler threads?