[Spoilers] Luff_Hi of Japan

[novice]

I fully expect Darrell to lawyer his way out of it.

At which point the flaming starts?

[Ruff_Hi]

Do you have any chance of winning/affecting the outcome at this point? What's going on?

Did the little piggy cry wee wee wee all the say home?

Here is exhibit A in the future court case of Ruff v Darrell regarding why our defensive pact should trigger ...


My first action in the war ... bet Krill didn't expect my sole Frigate to be within striking distance of one of his units. This brings up a funny thing re playing pitboss or pbem, you can lose a unit like this and (because of the delay between turns) not even realize that you have unless you actively check the log. Even when you check the log, you might not remember which unit you had on the now foggy tile.


How do tech when you suck really really badly v everyone else ...


And, lastly, some downsides of being a vassal ... bet you haven't seen this anger demerit before? Also, any city that is overlapping with the master loses its tiles (ie master gets BFC no matter what culture says). I lost some tiles that I 70% owned and now a city is starving.


My game for the last few turns has been to try and expand (settler, settler, settler, ...) and then get those cities up and running. I shouldn't have bothered because The End will be here much quicker than those cities can actually contribute. Instead, I should have been pumping more gold to SL / Dreylin and building a navy.

[fluffyflyingpig]

You should file some sort of complaint against Darell in the UN. Cutting off Krill's trade routes would at least help slow him down.

I guess someone would need to build the UN first....

[Ruff_Hi]

chat with Krill. I'll post a picture next time I see the save ...

• Krill: Darrell is a prick and you should have brought more galleons
  
• Ruff: they were not designed to deliver military units
  
• Krill: The SoL surely weren't
  
• Ruff: they are coverage
  do you want peace - I renouced my vassalage
  
• Krill: Sure, I'll offer peace.
  
• Ruff: re your 'prick' comment
  didn't your vassal ... oops ... Darrell tell you about the SoL armada?
  
• Krill: Which one? I can see two as is.
  
• Ruff: either
  
• Krill: OK, well, I can see one northern on near the top of hte old Dreylin isle, and another near the south of said isle. I have a sentry net up and scouting my east now
  and can't see anything dangerous down there
  
• Ruff:
  well - at least now I have something to post in my thread
  
• Krill: np
  tbh I've always found it ironic that you vassled at the time you became number 3 crop yield
  
• Ruff: the vassal was a ploy to get Darrell to declare on you
  didn't work too well
  but was fun either way
  
• Krill: I've always wondered if there were a way to play a game with human vassals without seriously breaking the game. Could be interesting
  
• Ruff: I did find a new source of +1 anger ...
  we are not happy with foreign interference'
  

[Ruff_Hi]

This is the pic I promised ...



... and some chat with Darrell ...

• Darrell: Krill is all mad at me now
  If you want Sid's you need to revlot out of merc this turn, I have an executive on your border
  
• Ruff: Krill buzzed me this morning
  why is he mad at you?
  
• Darrell: I guess you invaded him?
  
• Ruff: I've already revolted out of merc
  
• Darrell: Okay I will hit your border city with sid's this turn
  
• Ruff: I turned up at his border with my armada of SoL and 1 galleon
  you saw those right
  
• Darrell: No, not really
  
• Ruff: Krill mad at Darrel for not telling him about my fleet?
  
• Darrell: I think I notcied some ships but didn't notcie you were invading him
  Yes
  Not that I care, I am more amused than anything
  
• Ruff: you cannot invade with 1 galleon
  
• Darrell: [SIZE="7"]He gets his panties in a wad over just about anything[/SIZE]
  
• Ruff: I will leave it up to you to work out what I was doing
  I am so posting this chat!!
  
• Darrell: Of course
  He apparently considers it a deadly invasion force, based on his chat with me
  
• Ruff: oh boo hoo
  
• Darrell: If you are trying to bait him into attacking you, it will probably work. You certainly got him riled.
  
• Ruff: you can tell him that I have already unloaded all of my units and that the fleet is sailing hom
  home
  
• Darrell: I will pass that along to him
  
• Ruff: oh - apart from the other galleon that might unload its units
  
• Darrell: I will pas that along as well
  
• Ruff: other 1 (as in 'ONE') galleon
  nono - don't tell him about that one
  he'll see it soon enough
  and being yelled at by Krill is fun
  
• Darrell: YOu didn't drop off any units
  
• Ruff: I did!
  who is telling you I didn't?
  
• Darrell: No you didn't
  You have 4 SoLs, A Frigate and a Galleon
  
• Ruff: YES I DID
  can you see that tile?
  
• Darrell: They are 4N and 2W of Chicago
  
• Ruff: or is Krill telling you there isn't anything there
  
• Darrell: The only land tile adjacent to them is to the NW.
  And its empty
  I have a screenshot from him
  
• Ruff: who says it is empty
  ok - so Krill says that tile is empty
  I say it isn't
  work it out!
  
• Darrell: did you put a Great Spy on that tile?
  Or a regular spy?
  
• Ruff: once you have worked it out - don't tell Krill
  let him stew
  
• Darrell: Of coures.
  Give him another reason to get mad at me.
  
• Ruff: I put 3 units (the full galleon's cargo) on that tile
  feel free to say that I am lying
  and tell Krill to post that screenshot to his thread
  
• Darrell: I believe you. So let's see, they can get to the city in 3 turns, and teh galleon can sail up and you can hit it in a few other turns
  He did
  with a revolt
  is that the plan?
  
• Ruff: for 1 pointless city
  
• Darrell: oh
  
• Ruff: really - is that the question?
  
• Darrell: tech stealing
  how fun
  
• Ruff: did we outlaw that in this game?
  
• Darrell: no clue
  
• Ruff: gees - I hope we didn't
  
• Darrell: I doubt it
  This is funny
  why not just steal techs from me though?
  
• Ruff: please just go back to Krill and say that I am smoking crack
  
• Darrell: or is that what SL will do?
  YOu put EPs on Krill, he puts them on me kind of deal
  
• Ruff: I'm not at war with you (am I?)
  
• Darrell: you can still steal techs with someone you are at peace with
  
• Ruff: correct
  but GSpy has other side benefits
  
• Darrell: yes
  this is giong to be entertaining
  
• Ruff: it is also fun to annoy The Krill
  
• Darrell: Its fun, I have to agree
  You know...I have to think he will figure this out
  He's pretty shrewd. When you don't drop visible units off he's going to sense something is up and figure it out
  
• Ruff: sure he will
  and do what?
  
• Darrell: build spies I guess
  
• Ruff: which will be pointless - but I'll let him figure that out
  

[T-hawk]

The tech thread about 30 posts in seems to say that espionage is allowed except for civic and religion switching. Stealing from the tech leader - could be a nice play. Have you been saving up EP on Krill?

Do you trust Darrell not to pass any of that information to Krill?

[Ruff_Hi]

The tech thread about 30 posts in seems to say that espionage is allowed except for civic and religion switching. Stealing from the tech leader - could be a nice play. Have you been saving up EP on Krill?

I will spy bomb him. I also have a touch under 600EPs against Krill at the moment.

Do you trust Darrell not to pass any of that information to Krill?

No, not really ... it doesn't matter anyway. There isn't much the victim of a spy campaign can do if he cannot get a spy into my lands.

[darrelljs]

Here is exhibit A in the future court case of Ruff v Darrell regarding why our defensive pact should trigger ...

As I said, if Krill actually attacked you I was prepared to come to your defense, but these kinds of shenanigans are just so beneath you.

Darrell

[Krill]

*shrug* when I was generating 150 ept stealing much of anything wasn't going to do much damage, but nice try all the same. What is it with you and espionage anyway, Ruff?