PBEM 21 Organizing/Tech Thread

[Ellimist]

Pitboss is preferred as it can accomodate more people and is faster moving, but we would need a host to volunteer. (PBEM is also fine for me.)

[Krill]

Pitboss is preferred as it can accomodate more people and is faster moving, but we would need a host to volunteer. (PBEM is also fine for me.)

PBEM can hit a turn a day easily, just depends on the players.

[Ellimist]

They generally move more slowly, however. Or at least the PBEMs that I have read here were slower than the pitbosses.

[Krill]

Depends on the players. PBEM17 averages turn a day easy. If you make your slot every day (and that's down to good set up pregame) then turn a day is fairly easy to do. PBEM4 moves slow as hell because sunrise holds onto the save for about 2 days, sometimes 3.

[NobleHelium]

Pitboss is almost always going to be faster. Except during wartime, Pitboss will always have at least a turn a day, with a good chance of say, three turns every two days. The main benefit of Pitboss is that it's not a requirement that players be available at the same stretch of time per day, to play during your timeslot. And having people who are only available at around the same time is less of a problem with Pitboss.

[Krill]

Pitboss is almost always going to be faster. Except during wartime, Pitboss will always have at least a turn a day, with a good chance of say, three turns every two days. The main benefit of Pitboss is that it's not a requirement that players be available at the same stretch of time per day, to play during your timeslot. And having people who are only available at around the same time is less of a problem with Pitboss.

You say that, but then PBEM16 played 8 turns in 2 days and PBEM17 regularly got 2 turns a day, and sometimes 3, in the first 50 turns. In practice it comes down to the players you have and their personal play times. If you have 2 players that are only going to play in a 4 hour window but can play that everyday, you aren't going to get more than a turn a day whichever game type you use.

Best bet is to see what times everyone is able (and plans to play) and decide after that which you'd prefer to use. If you have a couple of people crowding out the same timezone, PB becomes better (PBEM4v had 4 players in one timezone, and that was a mess). If you have 6 people spaced around the world, PBEM works out fine. And if you have people focussed in 6 timezones from GMT+2 to GMT-10 you can get a turn a day with regular 2 turns a day in, with PBEM or PB.

[Jkaen]

I will play PBEM Full Diplo, I will ded lurk anything else

[pling]

So, this game seems to've stalled not because no-one is interested in playing it, but because no-one is organising it - so consider this an administrative kick up the arse It would be a shame to see a game die because no-one did the secretarial work

Signup List:

• Luddite
  
• Ellimist + SleepingMoogle + Nicolae Carpathia
  
• NobleHelium + Lewwyn + SevenSpirits
  
• coco
  
• mackoti
  
• Jkaen
  
• Olympio

Are you all still interested? Please speak up!

No tech trading seems to be standard for a BTS game, if you were thinking otherwise speak now or forever hold your peace

PBEM or PitBoss? PBEM: Jkaen PitBoss: NobleHelium (& Lewwyn), Ellimist (but ok with PBEM too)

Note that 7 is bigger than people think is wise for PBEM, to offset this Jkaen already said he was up for joining a team which would bring the number down to 6 (possibly also a bit big but closer). Also note Jkaen won't play if it's PitBoss (but will dedlurk).

Jkaen - given you won't be a turnplayer if it's PitBoss and already said you'd be willing to join a team, then it looks like this will work out best if you team up with one of the other singletons. That's kinda up to you to sort out tho

So far most people haven't expressed a preference, and it's 1 for PBEM and 2 for PitBoss - time to speak up people! If Jkaen does team up with someone, then it's actually 2 for PitBoss & no-one preferring PBEM.

CTON or not? Yes: coco, NobleHelium No: Ellimist (& Nicolae Carpathia), Jkaen

Note that Ellimist really doesn't want CTON & would prefer to find another game than play this as a CTON. Jkaen would also rather not be a turnplayer if this is CTON.

So far it's 2 each for CTON or full diplomacy. Time to speak up!

I have stolen the following list from a post of Krill's in the RBMod TT PBEM, and edited it mildly (taken out No Espionage as an option to be decided, as that's broken in BTS, I believe). I don't see anyone having answered any of these so far, and likely all need to be decided before the game can get under way.

1. Nukes?
2. Restricted/Unrestricted Leaders?
3. Land/Water ratio?
4. Duplicate Civ/Leaders?
5. Huts?
6. Spies/Missions?
5. Random Events?
7. Great Spy restrictions?
8. Vassal States?
9. HE/WP unit gift ban?
10. Snake Pick?
11. Game speed?
12. Difficulty?
13. Ban any civ/leader?
14. Barbarians?
15. World Wrap?
16. Internet?

If there are any other settings you need to decide, tell me & I'll add them to the list

There is also no map-maker, unless you get back down to 6 players and use regoarrarr's offered map.

Most important right now tho, is to reply confirming interest and vote on PBEM/PitBoss and Diplomacy settings.

[Kuro]

If you need/want more players or a replacement or anything, and of course don't mind my low post count, I would be extremely willing to play this if it goes Pitboss. And yes, I know I signed up for Pitboss 5 too, but with no job or anything I can afford to shit around for half my waking hours playing civ

If you'll take me/I'm in/whatever you wanna call it, I'd obv. prefer Pitboss and I'd also prefer full diplo. Won't go into Settings until I know I'm in so as not to clog.

[pling]

Kuro - let's wait & see if everyone confirms & if it is definitely PitBoss, but you'll be first in line for a spare space

I've re-read Krill's most recent post in this thread and realised I missed something you guys should probably answer while we're at this stage.

Can you say what your preferred playing time is, please. I'd prefer it if you quote it in GMT for my convenience

As Krill points out if there's a lot of overlap then this will pretty much only work as PitBoss.