RBP5 IT and Tech Issues Thread

[Krill]

So I was supposed to finish at 1500 and instead walked off at 2000 to cover short staffing...

I'll cut this short. I can explain how I think the metagame works for the current settings and how it could work in no tech brokering or I can just say what I prefer. The only reason I would post the metagame comments is because have never played a tech trading game under AI diplo before. However I will only post the metagame comments if everyone in the game agrees because making the comments public will affect the game and is no different to diplo. I do think we need a pause as well, unless one person does not want to change the rules. And I'm not entirely sure what Nakor posted.

[scooter]

So I was supposed to finish at 1500 and instead walked off at 2000 to cover short staffing...

I'll cut this short. I can explain how I think the metagame works for the current settings and how it could work in no tech brokering or I can just say what I prefer. The only reason I would post the metagame comments is because have never played a tech trading game under AI diplo before. However I will only post the metagame comments if everyone in the game agrees because making the comments public will affect the game and is no different to diplo. I do think we need a pause as well, unless one person does not want to change the rules. And I'm not entirely sure what Nakor posted.

Go for it. This is why I was holding off on making any comments - just having this discussion will affect the game even if we don't change the rules because I suspect some people haven't thought things through completely. Might as well just get it out in the open though.

[Krill]

Also, I want Commodore's autosave from last turn for posterity, 1370AD.

[pindicator]

Yeah, I think I have a good idea what you are going to say already. No problem putting it out in the open because the spirit of this game has been great and I think that would just help keep things going smooth. At the same time I don't really mind if we adopt a tech brokering rule halfway through, but I don't think it's necessary either.

[Krill]

Well that means waiting on:

• [strike]Commodore[/strike]
  
• Cyneheard
  
• yuris
  
• azza
  
• Nakor
  
• Mist or Brick

FWIW, I will write the post either way, for my thread if no where else.

[Commodore]

Post ahead. I am content being hoisted by my own petard in this case if there is an objection. Honestly, although it was an oversight to begin with, if even one person is strongly against banning brokerage I think we ought to play on.

[scooter]

I went ahead and paused the game while we wait to sort this out.

[yuris125]

I have no problem with tech brokering in an AI diplo game with RB mod restrictions

[regoarrarr]

So I haven't really discussed this with Pindicator, but my thoughts are that I don't particularly care one way or the other. I have been aware that tech brokering was on and I don't ever remember assuming it was off. If we want to ban it, okay, but generally speaking I'm against changing the rules halfway through a game. It may be one of those things that you just need to be careful about who you might trade techs with, since once you do, you no longer have control over who they might trade it with.

As for any "meta-game" conversation, I'm okay with it, but what I would NOT like to have happen is that it devolves into full-on diplo, and we get to a point where we end up giving up on this game because it's lost its original meaning. I want to keep playing this game.

[Azza]

I'll go with whatever the majority want.