It's closing day for Epic Forty-four: Denial of the Nile! Please post your reports in reply to this thread.

I made the old Civ forum read-only, put up as big of a "forum closing" notice as I could, and I emailed everyone who was registered over there, so I'm hoping that players will be able to find there way here to report. The links are updated on the main /civ section, too, so that should help.

I think that reports will really help us get a sense of what this forum can and can't (yet) do, so go ahead and try it out! 2:

-Griselda

Home sweet home! Back from a 2 day unplanned road (and ferry) trip down to Victoria. What a beautiful city, wonders that it remains unspoiled since I first visited more than 20 years ago. I thought I'd share some pictures with you, pictures not of its landscape although you can get glimpses of it in the background. These pictures are some of the 60 Orcas that will be auctions off in November. Some of these will be up for bids at the "The Orca Auction & Gala Dinner", and some will be up for online bids. I wish I had known about this "Orcas In The City" event before I went, I would have made more time to hunt down every statue. The hunt itself would have been a very nice tour to the various attractions in the city.





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KoP

Hi all,

Hooray for our shiny new home, and cheers to Lurker Lounge for their help!

Griselda, two minor things, *way* down your list of things to do. I am impressed that you are making the effort to convert postings across.

My password went away in the changeover from the Lurker Lounge, it could well be that that was the most sensible way to handle things (ie, there was no way for you to conserve current passwords, you had to force a password reset). From my point of view I *used* to have exactly the same username and password on both LL and Realms Beyond, but it went away?

The current time quoted appears to be 11 hours ahead (or maybe 13 hours behind) what it should be. This is after I set my correct local timezone (NZ daylight time, GMT+13, and doesn't THAT exercise a few bugs).

Now I just need to amend my Imperium 7 report a bit for vB code...

Cheers,
Factoid.

PS - I can't tell from one post what day it is! My message was posted Thursday 14th October at 10:32(-ish) GMT+13, and comes out as "posted today at 21:32 GMT +13", so I have to wait a couple of days to get a full date stamp on the posting.

I care about getting the clock right because having a wrong clock timestamping postings (or touching anything system- or database-related) is really icky. If the clock needs to be set forward 13 hours that is not too bad, but setting a clock back 11 hours and having overlapping timestamps for those 11 hours is just nasty. I hope I'm wrong about all of this.

PPS - The clock is (hopefully only) seven minutes out, and the timezone settings in either vBulletin or at system level are wrong/bugged/broken. If it is a *nix box I would suggest "man timezone" and "man ntpd" or "man timed" if you must. I also suggest you get local expertise, don't rely on random postings from people you don't know.

Imperium Seven has closed. All players should be done playing by now. Due to the forum move, we've got things up in the air, so to be sure to include everybody, Report Day becomes Report Week. Please have your reports posted (in this thread, or linked from here) by the end of Monday October 18, and don't wait until the last minute. The extra time is for those who may get lost along the way from the old forum to here.

Meanwhile, I'll try to get either IMP6 or IMP8 up by next Monday.


- Sirian

Now that RBCiv has a site forum almost equivilent to CFC (in terms of preformance), I had a question - will the RBCiv SGs still be at CFC, or will you shift them here? (I haven't taken place in any of them, but I have in other SGs - I'm an Emperor/Demi-God (rarely DG) player - but I like to lurk them). Thanks for answering.

Got a big chuckle over this morning's comic strip





KoP

Well, I've arrived. A lot of settings default to off, including images, avatars, and signatures. Arriving players will need to customize their user data to ensure they receive the level of access they desire. Civ and Moo players in particular will need to enable images if they want to enjoy any tourney reports posted directly to the forum.

There are three steps to resetting your password. You log in and click "forgot my password". Then an email is sent to you. You receive that, click a link in it, and verify that you are who you claim to be by having access to your own email account. Then a second email is sent to you, with a second link. You click that and go in to reset your password to what you want. Once that's done, you should set your user preferences, including linear or threaded view, allowing images, sigs or avatars, etc.


Could take a little getting used to, and maybe a wrinkle or two to iron out. For instance, I was unable to choose an avatar for myself. Not sure why. However, once we are settled, we should be good for a long time to come.


- Sirian

I thought I'd messed up the databse, but it turned out to just be a part of the ipb skin that wasn't compatible with Firefox. If you're using Firefox, you may not be able to see all the posts at this point.

This is the old board, which as you can see I didn't save as a backup (sorry). I'll be working on the new board this weekend.

Sorry for the downtime.

-Gris

OK I read the old discussion and the epic rule about utilities:

"The use of any bean counter, trainer, or other program designed to give you an advantage or some information not otherwise available in the game is prohibited. This includes utilities such as Mapstat and Apollo."

Now that discussion was held two years ago so I think it's a bit outdated. Maybe some clarifications based on what new features those tools provide today?

I started using mapstat about one month ago. The only features I use are alarms for 1. cities going to riot 2. new trading possibility and 3. pollution. These are not always accurate (sometimes it prompts trading but it's unchanged from last turn).

All of the 3 features do not fall into the definition of the rule, IMO. These are just alarms of what information you can get anyway from the game, and IMO the game itself SHOULD provide those features. It's very tedious to go through all the AIs in the diplo screen just to find who has a tech to trade. For an SG it might not be important, but for Epic, this really makes game play less fun and distracted.

I agree that players using the utility does have advantage. If you consider a 100% ban, please make it very clear in the rule, because these alarms aren't really a bean counter like counting the tiles. But my suggestion is to allow it and I would recommand everyone use it.

BTW I might not be able to finish the current two epics..especially the AW - I could hardly return to the old version again.

Hello all!

I'm happy to report that Realms Beyond is now in a position where we will be able to host our own forums on the RB servers. I have purchased a copy of vBulletin. The 3.0 version seems to have threaded, linear, and hybrid view options, and I'm *hoping* the threaded view will be able to handle long threads better then the newer invision boards can.

I had hoped that the forum transition would be smooth, but it doesn't look like that will be the case. VBulletin has a script that will move posts and members from an invision board to vBulletin, *but*, the script isn't very good at connecting to databases on remote servers (right now the database is on the LL server, and the new database is on the RB server), and it's not providing us with detailed error messages that would allow us to troubleshoot. Also, the threaded version of this forum is a hack, and as a result nobody has written an importer for ipb 1.1 threaded. But, there is an importer for ipb 2.0 threaded, and the 1.1 ipb can be upgraded to the 2.0 trial version. So, I think I will need to upgrade this board before I move the database.

I also don't have direct access to this forum's current database. To get a database dump, I have to ask Bolty to take the time to create one and upload it for me. So, I don't want to create too much work on his end.

I have a database copy from last weekend that I'm thinking about using for the transition. So, posts made after last weekend wouln't get moved to the new forums, but everything made before it would. That would make things much easier for everyone involved, I think.

There is an Imperium that closes on Monday, and this is a very busy work week for me, so the skinning on the new board might not be perfect at the time it opens. I'm hoping to keep this one around as a reference for colors if possible. If I can't get it done by Monday, I'll chat with Bolty and Sirian (sheesh, how long has it been since anyone has had to mention those two in the same sentence? :P ) and see what we can work out.

Does this sound like a workable solution to everybody? Think of it as your opportunity to say something online that won't come back to haunt you 5 years later. Hmm, on second thought, don't think about it that way.

-Griselda