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"Worst Enemy" |
Posted by: Qwack - October 14th, 2006, 18:53 - Forum: Civilization General Discussion
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I was recently playing a game so let me just give a overview of what happened...
Its 1200 AD, and I know ill probably be going after diplo victory. I have 2 friends, isabella and saladin, and I need one out of either monty or churchill. Churchill is both saladin and monty's worst enemy, so I decide its probably favourable to develop monty into a friend. A few turns go by, and churchill adopts monty's religion. And then suddenly im monty's worst enemy at -2 relations . I gift monty a tech some turns later for +4 fair trade modifiers, and then suddenly isabella becomes monty's worst enemy because she traded with his worst enemy (me)..... And because I was heavily trading with isabella, I get -4 modifier with monty for trading with his worst enemy WHO became his worst enemy because she was trading with his previous worst enemy...
Eventually, I end up having to get both monty and isabella involved in a war against churchill so they can get mutual military modifier with eachother. Fair enough, 120 turns go by, everything happen's superbly. Churchill vasallizes to Wang Kon which puts all of us in a war against wang kon(My opponent in the UN). I build UN and at +11 relations, monty abstains from voting because I still have the -4 "You have traded with our worst enemies" from 120 turns ago. GREAT! So I have to research up to fascism and adopt police state to win the game...
Theres 3 problems I think with this worst enemy thing..
1. If you meet someone and you have been trading with thier worst enemy from before, you automatically get the modifier sometimes. Same case if an AI changes worst enemy, you automatically get the modifier.
2. It seems like an AI civ always has to have a worst enemy... I can see the logic behind this but its too sudden IMO.
3. The worst enemy modifier doesnt fade away or atleast not fast enough.
Heres a couple of screens from this game that people might find interesting.. this war continued from around 1600 AD all the way until the end in 1806 AD.
![[Image: civ4screenshot0018lq5.th.jpg]](http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6170/civ4screenshot0018lq5.th.jpg)
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'False OCC' to try |
Posted by: Iustus - October 12th, 2006, 19:26 - Forum: Civilization General Discussion
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I have been wanting to try this idea. This game is not a true one city challenge, you can settle more cities.
However, you will not be getting to any other cities without Astronomy. I guarantee it.
This start is doctored to be super amazing, but without a good plan, you will still fall behind of the Monarch AIs on their own continents.
![[Image: FalseOCC1.jpg]](http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/95686/FalseOCC1.jpg)
There are only 3 opponents, but they have full continents to spread out to. There is at least one continent that has no AIs on it, so if you get to Astronomy quickly, you there is plenty of land to claim.
Or, you can play this as a strict one city challenge if you like, but you will not be able to build most of the national epics.
No barbarians.
The resources on this map were altered by a script I am working on. There will be less resources than normal, but they will be clustered in large clumps.
The settings:
![[Image: FalseOCC2.jpg]](http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/95686/FalseOCC2.jpg)
Yes, this is a Warlords game.
Edit: Added much more challenging game. This is a different map, tropical climate, more resources for the AIs, different AIs, less food at the start.
-Iustus
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Triple Green Weekend - Post what you want |
Posted by: Lurker Wyrm - October 11th, 2006, 19:08 - Forum: Guild Wars
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Edit: Updated Master Wants List:
Warrior
Wing's (x2), Razorfin's, Ugly Stick (x2), Vera (x3), Reefclaw's, Tarnen's, Sunreach's, Rajazan's Fervor (x2), Ironclaw, Kaolin Blade (x2)
Ranger
Swiftscale's Shortbow (x0), Nundak's Recurve Bow, Ryver's Shortbow
Monk
Rien's Sacrifice, Jayne's Staff (x0), Stormray (x2), The Scar Eater (x0), Kaolin Protection Staff, Ssuns' Staff, Stoneweaver (x0)
Necromancer
Kaolin Accursed Staff
Mesmer
Wingstorm (x2), Deeproot's Sorrow, Milefaun's Staff (x0), Kaolin Domination Staff
Elementalist
Amadis' Air Staff, Kunvie's Air Staff (x2), Abor's Earth Staff (x2), Zamas' Wrath, Koosun's Fire Staff, Kaolin Water Staff (x2)
Assassin
Chkkr's Pincers, Darkroot's Daggers (x0), Everthorn's Chakrams (x0)
Ritualist
Ritual Lord's Staff (x1), Sseer's Wish, Spirit Garden's Repose (x1), The Pain Eater, Ssyn's Staff (x0)
I think I got everything. It's a big list. I added links to the bosses that drop them. Some of them look pretty tricky to get to, so we'll have to see about those.
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If you don't know by now, this weekend (10/13-10/15) all Canthan boss monsters are going to be 3x as likely to drop a green item when killed, so now is the time to go after any greens you want. Some of us who don't really have anything they need to do in the game anymore (hint: me) have found ways to solo farm quite a few bosses (thanks to the farming section on the Guru forums). So here is your opportunity to post your wish list, and if I can manage it I'll try to get one for you. There are a few out there that are going to require an actual team so if there are other people out there who don't have anything else to do, we can team up to go after the elusive ones.
You can check the list of greens on Wiki, the list of all Canthan greens is here. Just remember that the ones located in Divine Path aren't dropped from monsters but are the end-game ones you get with an Amulet of the Mists. Also, the Kanaxai and Urgoz weaopns won't be affected by this weekend since they always drop anyways.
The list of greens I'd like to go for (and use for myself):
W - Wing's Axe* (done)
W - Vera (not because of the stats, but because I like Firefly)
W - Rajazan's Fervor*
W - Kaolin Blade (not a high priority, but I like the look)
R - Swiftscale's Shortbow** (done)
Mo - Stormray**
Mo - The Scar Eater (done)
Mo - Jayne's Staff (done)
Mo - Stoneweaver**
Rt - Spirit Garden's Repose
Rt - Ritual Lord's Staff* (done)
Rt - The Pain Eater
E - Kunvie's Air Staff
E - Arbor's Earth Staff
E - Kaolin Water Staff
Edit: added a couple E staves in anticipation of Nightfall. Also added another sword.
* - These are possible to solo farm
** - These might be possible to solo farm, I'll have to check it out though.
The others are going to need at least one other person to help out with getting them. I also saw a few others on the list I know I'll probably go for to get for other people.
Well, that's my wishlist for the weekend, feel free to post yours.
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