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RBP2 Lurker Discussion Thread - No Players!

Me? I was just quoting. If you want to put me to the question regardless, well than I'd have to say it doesn't matter so long as the HRE know what the breach was and don't care about it. Which is what appears to be the case.

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I'm actually not sure if there was a ruling or not darrell.

I sent Krill an earlier save, and I know he looked at it, plus he had discussions with HRE. But unless Krill is going to make some sort of ruling that affects future in-game actions it looks like play-on since Krill had me reload to the current turn.
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So long as the game is paused, and neither HRE/India/Mali move, fine.
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Jowy Wrote:Nobody else would have got away with what Sullla and Speaker did. Just saying.

Except that if anyone but Spulla had done it, no one would have found out (unless obviously the other team noticed, but in this instance HRE didn't.) Only because of Spulla's detailed reports did this even get noticed by lurkers, so I don't think it's entirely fair to say that no one else would have gotten away with it, when they wouldn't have even been noticed for doing it.
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OK, I've posted the decision, but with no reasoning in the thread, because I feel that it will just be flame bait.

I did talk with Nakor a little bit, and he was quite...cowed, by the way Speaker wrote in the emails. So, my understanding of it is that India break the rules, get called on it, play on anyway, bitch when the game gets stopped, email the party that lost out and refuse "reparations", and then try to bully everyone to remove the 1 method of arbitration available to them when the rules do get broken.

OK, I'm probably going overboard there, but...what is everyone elses' view of this?
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athlete4life10 Wrote:Actually I don't think so. Atleast not since Krill's rules have been in place.
Plako seems to believe so, per the emails Nakor posted in the HRE thread.
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Thanks for your efforts Krill. I don't think that your ruling will be acceptable to all teams (which is unfortunate), but we'll see.
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Beamup Wrote:Plako seems to believe so, per the emails Nakor posted in the HRE thread.

Interesting. I shall make time to try and get caught up then.

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I suspect the odds that we'll see another turn in this game have just dropped below 50%. The trouble is that all parties have very valid points, and have rather uncompromising personalities.

Joke suggestion: maybe we need an impartial moderator to moderate the interactions between the teams and the moderator?smile
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I just asked Plako that, the reason it wasn't fully followed was that Plako was attacking one side of Whosits' empire, and Slaze the other, so they were never attacking "together". This meant that in the interests of keeping the game moving, the rule was only followed to the letter when they both attacked one of Whosits' last cities at the same time.

In other words, the rule has always been followed when it would have an effect on the gameplay.
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