[SPOILERS] vanrober learning from GKC far from home of each otherr

[vanrober]

Turn 102

So Scooter didnt atack, we sabotage the ivory and road and then move the keshiks out of range of him to wait the axe. The plan is the following:

       

We have already 13 keshiks going to scooter, and a axe, on the other hand we know Ruff is going to take the revenge in 7 turns and will atack, he has 12 units and we plan to have 7-8 units with fortify bonnus most of thema dn also on hill and with walls. So it should be fine if he doesnt get cats faster than we do.

Overall view of the empire:

       

Demos and graphs

       

Money

   

Units. As you can see we will atack hard Scooter and the plan is then get ruff to ground. And also Nau, getting SH and that fooooody capitol would be great.

   

[GeneralKilCavalry]

Big update:

So we're in position for our master plan. We can have the fork with 10 keshiks ready in 2 turns. Let's think what he has now.

87k power.
12k worth of axes, 24k worth of spears. plus the 1 axe he killed our scout with, so 18k for axes.
45k of power.
Subtract 3 for a barracks i see on the map
42k of power.
BW: 8
IW: (I think he has it, settling a bad iron city up north...) 10
4 wheel
4*2 for: Sailing, Hunting, Mining, Animal Husbandry
total of 34k in tech.
8k in power left
subtract pop out, and you're left with maybe a warrior?

Given this information, I'm not sure if the best option isnt to just move directly to threaten a fork next turn, not waiting for our axe, since he is so low on power. Not sure. Though, with the axe, it is the safest option, and we can deny the mine tile.


You can whip here next turn if you want. Probably best to whip, regrow, and start on an axeman or archer.


Ruff's stack didnt get bigger this turn. I think it is purely for defense.


Whip lighthouse right before hitting size 5.

Grow on a keshik, then start a settler.

With the huge amount of food here, getting a granary would be nice...

[vanrober]

If you are making such a good report and you can add graphs and demos, feel totally free of ending turn.

As i told you on the first post im totally fine by seeing this game as a team play. I am learning so much with you and we are in touch so i know what we are doing. So really, you can press the red button without waiting for me.

[vanrober]

Turn 103

Big update:

So we're in position for our master plan. We can have the fork with 10 keshiks ready in 2 turns. Let's think what he has now.

87k power.
12k worth of axes, 24k worth of spears. plus the 1 axe he killed our scout with, so 18k for axes.
45k of power.
Subtract 3 for a barracks i see on the map
42k of power.
BW: 8
IW: (I think he has it, settling a bad iron city up north...) 10
4 wheel
4*2 for: Sailing, Hunting, Mining, Animal Husbandry
total of 34k in tech.
8k in power left
subtract pop out, and you're left with maybe a warrior?

Given this information, I'm not sure if the best option isnt to just move directly to threaten a fork next turn, not waiting for our axe, since he is so low on power. Not sure. Though, with the axe, it is the safest option, and we can deny the mine tile.


You can whip here next turn if you want. Probably best to whip, regrow, and start on an axeman or archer.


Ruff's stack didnt get bigger this turn. I think it is purely for defense.


Whip lighthouse right before hitting size 5.

Grow on a keshik, then start a settler.

With the huge amount of food here, getting a granary would be nice...

This is the research of them. 3 ppl know construction, i hope any of them is ruff.(english question, does it means iwant ruff to be one with cosntruction or the oposite?)

   

Demos and graphs, down on prod and food, still best on military.

       

On Tan Solo i screwed up, i was aiming a naval invasion that never happened and lost so many hammers onto a galley that never was used, instead of a granary. That was a huge mistake. Maybe we should swap keshik for granary?

Also, you put calendar after currency, dont you think some cats would make our life so much easier vs ruff?

I thought to whip on Como Camaron with the stone bonus for more hammers. thats next turn. And on Poquito a Poco i thought to whip on 2 turns so we get extra 30h overflow into another keshik without losing the gold mine.

[civac2]

This is the research of them. 3 ppl know construction, i hope any of them is ruff.(english question, does it means iwant ruff to be one with cosntruction or the oposite?)

As you wrote it it means you hope Ruff has Construction. You could write "I hope none of them is Ruff" though that may be a bit akward (not sure, my english language intuition could use some work too) or possibly better "I hope Ruff is not among them".

[vanrober]

This is the research of them. 3 ppl know construction, i hope any of them is ruff.(english question, does it means iwant ruff to be one with cosntruction or the oposite?)

As you wrote it it means you hope Ruff has Construction. You could write "I hope none of them is Ruff" though that may be a bit akward (not sure, my english language intuition could use some work too) or possibly better "I hope Ruff is not among them".

Okey, i wanted it to mean the oposite xD. Thanks Civac!

[NobleHelium]

"I hope none of them is Ruff." is a very normal sentence to hear. "I hope Ruff is not among them." is a more poetic way of putting it.

[vanrober]

I just know the word Among because of the viral game. So i think i would stick at the first one! Thanks Noble

[vanrober]

Turn 104

Last turn we ended Currency, and since we are struggling with GNP since the begining this bust was awesome. Here you can see the diference with gold with some turns ago. Crazy

   

About our battlefront. We have been doubting a bit on what to do, General thought we could even atack this turn with good odds on wining, but we dont trust RNG so we went the safest way, as we planned some turns ago. Another aproach would be to go with all our keshiks to the point where we fork capitol and second city to force a fight, which should be on our side, but again, why force that if we can slowly getting there. On the next turn he will have to decide what to do, if he tries to destroy our stack, he will lose at least 2 units and he could win in the best case 4 keshiks more, we would still have a lot to conquer de city and the only stack he has. And if he retreats to def the capitol then we have the city for free with 0 loses. And we could still fight in the plains to hit the capitol after. So i think he should think abit more than the 3-5 min eh has been taking to play this last turns. (I hope i explained good enough so you can understand, otherwise ask!)

   

Also thinking about our bad gnp and the need of a GA to recover when all this ends, hopefully around 20-30 turns. So the plan is to achieve some libraries. One on one of our best cities Poquito a Poco, the gold city and the filler city that is a bit crapy since has no really good tiles to work at the moment. So we can hire some scientist on this cities and get the GS for the GA, hopefully we can get monarchy on time for HR, we will see how things go.


The overview of the empire!

   

Demos and Graphs, i feel better since we are at 0% and we are not last, but we are not in a good position with GNP. Also lost the prior in Food and Prod.

       

Finally our units, still a bit behind on workers but Keshiks are getting online. 

   

Also another civ took construction this turn, the odds of Ruff not being one of them are decreasing but it is what it is. We will get cosntruction in about 8 turns if everything goes as planed.

   

[GeneralKilCavalry]

To clarify the fork

" About our battlefront. We have been doubting a bit on what to do, General thought we could even atack this turn with good odds on wining, but we dont trust RNG so we went the safest way, as we planned some turns ago. Another aproach would be to go with all our keshiks to the point where we fork capitol and second city to force a fight, which should be on our side, but again, why force that if we can slowly getting there. On the next turn he will have to decide what to do, if he tries to destroy our stack, he will lose at least 2 units and he could win in the best case 4 keshiks more, we would still have a lot to conquer de city and the only stack he has. And if he retreats to def the capitol then we have the city for free with 0 loses. And we could still fight in the plains to hit the capitol after. So i think he should think abit more than the 3-5 min eh has been taking to play this last turns. (I hope i explained good enough so you can understand, otherwise ask!)"

So we only had 4 keshiks ready to fork, and we didnt want to lose those odds. Next turn, we fork the cities with 10 kehik and an axe to defend. Huge difference

My initial guess, however, was to send those 4 keshiks north, and loop to the capital, which I still think may have been better, but this is safer and puts scooter in a position where he cannot defend both.