NobleHelium Wrote:me: you know
if we were ORG
we'd save 36gpt right now
(i'm assuming the -50% civic upkeep is just halving the value you see in f2)
it's not dividing it by 1.5 is it?
Gaspar: uh
no recollection whatsoever
me: 36gpt sounds pretty obscene
if we were FIN
i think we'd get like 48c extra or so
75% of fin and not counting free buildings??
er cheap buildings
I keep saying that ORG gets a bad rap around here, so thanks for more evidence
Not that we should all go back to picking Darius of HRE like we all wanted to when we were new, but ORG is very solid.
NobleHelium Wrote:me: you know
if we were ORG
we'd save 36gpt right now
(i'm assuming the -50% civic upkeep is just halving the value you see in f2)
In fact it's a bit better - it halves the cost of each civic individually and rounds down before summing. So the first $5 of civic costs (1 in each column) ends up being free. On average it seems like this rounding will save you 2gpt, compared to if it was rounded after summing.
Yes the 36 gpt is including the savings from inflation (but not including Seven's adjustment). ORG is not necessarily super slow either, because lighthouses might be desired early, and courthouses to a lesser extent.
On very high difficulty levels, like Immortal/Deity, and even emperor with toridal wrap, Org can out preform Fin. It is slower, however, even including the half price courthouses (which is often more imporant than the civic cut) and lighthouses. For noble/prince/monarch/most emperor games/a fair number of immortal games/some diety games, I'd prefer financial. In a sushi or other corp game, organized becomes even better. Many people over at CivFanatics rate organized as even better than I do, but I like financial more about 95% of the time (I usually play emperor/immortal)
Its interesting that organized is boosted in the RB mod unlike most top-tier traits-I think it becomes the one right choice at immortal/emperor there. You can tell rb mod was made for noble/prince/monarch multiplayer
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Yeah, we're in one of those weird spots where we're waiting for some stuff to happen (GP born for GA, UoS to complete, Commodore to DoW and kill us) and in the meantime we're just completing some improvements at the newer cities and knocking out some forges. You know, no big.
GSci born, probably Dave. No big. Probably aiming to bulb to Lib. Better him than Ichabod or Commodore. Our Base 8 C&D indicates to us that someone has Nationalism this turn, still nobody with Guilds. Take it with a grain of salt.
Since we haven't shown the Mexican Standoff in a little while, here's what Commodore has in Kiki.
Less importantly, we should be taking that coast tile south of the gems from him presently.
And that's really it. Next turn we get Philo. Turn after we pop a GP, fire the GA, finish UoS. Then we have a decision point for where we go next. This turn, zzzz.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
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