Gaspar and NobleHelium - More Arguments About Buildings & Food.

[Boldly Going Nowhere]

Ok, I do have a question. You have something like a 3x lead in hammers, and that's the closest it's been in quite some time. Why do you need a tech advantage, too, for the crushing?

"Yahoo! Best Answer *TM": Have insurmountable lead (right??) in a second-chance game and a penchant for (forgive me) not winning. Scared of the final bloodbath.

Blast it, Lew, you beat me to a better answer. Nice analogy.

So yeah, I've been pretty distracted from the game of late. Between me really being infinitely less interested because there's really no way for us to lose this at this point, working lots of long and late hours and this girl who won't leave me alone, Noble's been making most of the decisions lately. He must be doing much better without me holding him back, eh Krill? :oldwink:

...snip... Noble's positronic brain...

@ Commander Data. Also, this girl who won't leave you alone, she's not into Civ V, is she? :neenernee

[Boldly Going Nowhere]

All right assholes, I've chosen an avatar.

I really think you'd be more comfortable wearing this:

I hope you don't mind my needling.

[Mardoc]

Yeah, turning off a blender by sticking your arm in would be rather painful. But if you've got a big enough arm (or small enough blender), it'll still work. I know that collateral gives its wielder a dramatic hammer advantage in war, but I find it hard to believe it's more than 3x. That's all.

Anyway, I suppose in real life terms you might end the game as quickly going for elegance, since the turn pace is bound to slow down immensely once war breaks out. A blitzkrieg should need fewer war turns than a meatgrinder.

[Boldly Going Nowhere]

One other thought: I haven't seen the victory conditions screen in ages. How likely are you to get a concession/domination win by invading Mistabod? That would feed less hammers to the blender and would likely net you a large chunk of territory. You could then use your interior lines of defense (railroads) and collateral, as well as your 3x hammer advantage, to play defense against your tech near-equal, Commodore, while sweeping the map. Is this something you have considered?

[Gaspar]

One other thought: I haven't seen the victory conditions screen in ages. How likely are you to get a concession/domination win by invading Mistabod? That would feed less hammers to the blender and would likely net you a large chunk of territory. You could then use your interior lines of defense (railroads) and collateral, as well as your 3x hammer advantage, to play defense against your tech near-equal, Commodore, while sweeping the map. Is this something you have considered?

The easiest path to domination is probably chewing up Mistabod and Sirian'ing Dave. But Mist has been good enough to us all game that it would seem fairly chintzy and Commodore is our natural enemy, so it would be more satisfying to just kill him.

[pindicator]

All right assholes, I've chosen an avatar.

Nice one. I'll have to challenge you to a game sometime

[Krill]

Still think Boldy's avatar for Noble is better.

[NobleHelium]

I don't actually play Chess. I think the reliance on memorizing openings and endgames detracts from the game, for one.

[pindicator]

I don't actually play Chess. I think the reliance on memorizing openings and endgames detracts from the game, for one.

me too, which is why if i ever play someone who has done that i get my ass kicked

[Gaspar]

For those of you wondering the source of Noble's new avatar:

Mild PBEM34s spoiler:

Gaspar: you know what commodore's problem is?
its actually your worst tendency as well, actually
NobleHelium: what, to focus on small things?
Gaspar: but commodore is like 1000x worse than you about it
no, to fixate on what everyone else is doing
NobleHelium: what
you mean my stack combat comment?
Gaspar: no
in games
NobleHelium: how is asking about railing the coal an occurrence of that
Gaspar: had nothing to do with that
NobleHelium: well okay
Gaspar: i was talking about commodore

i just read his 34s updates
NobleHelium: i don't read his updates
Gaspar: and i was talking to him the other day
NobleHelium: since i hate him remember :P
and yeah he attacked scooter
Gaspar: and hes flipping out because scooter went for early bureau
NobleHelium: he's kind of like krill
except he doesn't destroy everyone
Gaspar: so MUST ATTACK
hbr was a waste
fucking tech
defend
NobleHelium: how many cities does he have
Gaspar: then kill when you have a decent killing unit
i dunno, 6 i think
NobleHelium: did he actually say like
i gotta attack
Gaspar: he didnt say those words
it was
NobleHelium: i mean i think opportunistic attacks are fine
Gaspar: scooter, bureaucap
so i have to build a bunch of HA and attack him
its just retarded
play your game well, make them react to you
NobleHelium: he attacked with mostly phalanxes :P
Gaspar: its one thing if you're playing against 7 and you can't win
NobleHelium: anyway
Gaspar: but otherwise
NobleHelium: i think keeping track of your opponent's moves
are very important
Gaspar: theres a fine line between monitoring
and obsessing
NobleHelium: and thinking about what he's planning to do
or how he might react to what you do
Gaspar: obviously, all those things matter
NobleHelium: you don't win chess by thinking about what your moves will be
Gaspar: but playing your game is far more important
civ aint chess
NobleHelium: pfft
Gaspar: not by a long shot
civ you win by having more and better pawns on the board
not by moving them more intelligently

This conversation happened like a week ago but is part of an ongoing debate where I tell Noble he worries about what Commodore is doing too much and he argues that nothing could possibly be more important in life than knowing exactly what Commodore is doing. I'm pretty sure he basically has the Joker's grin on his face everytime the airships fly over Holy Rome. Anyway, that's the backstory. By this logic of course my avatar should be a tank rolling over a pawn. :oldwink: