[SPOILERS - PBEM17] darrelljs - Elizabeth of Egypt

[Gold Ergo Sum]

When will the GScientist arrive?

[darrelljs]

I sent Shoot a message asking him that very question. We had a pretty clear chat to use rego's city, so something must have happened. I know they were experiencing border tension, but...

Darrell

[darrelljs]

Okay, its been a while. First, some bad news:



So we lost the Gems. Need a Library and Temple here ASAP I guess. Not really sure we can win this battle, because I'm not sure its just the Pyramids city. More cultural losses:



This one isn't quite so bad, as long as we remain on good terms with Kyan. Power is a vague concern:



And, uh, demos:



Ah...



No doubt they will drop back to Slavery at the end of the Golden Age.

Darrell

[Krill]

*shrug* I don't think we're actually in that bad of a position, consider the golden age, and they are in Rep/Bureau/Caste/OR.

[darrelljs]

You know the more I think about it the more I don't see how we can possibly win the Liberalism race. I think Caste is there for a GS to bulb Education. They have Civil Service and Code of Laws on us already; all they need is Paper, Education (bulbed), Philsophy and Liberalism. Considering they are in a GA to boot, they will probably get it in about a dozen turns.

Darrell

[darrelljs]

Okay burned one turn to get IW and found:



So far Shoot is the only one that got locked out. City screen:



Demo screen:



Darrell

[Krill]

Rego got the GL. The wrong GL, as it happens...and late. And still no sign of the GS...

Darrell, what are you doing about all of the forges?

[NobleHelium]

Clearly StM donated the GS to nospace to make up for killing the GM.

[darrelljs]

I'd be lying if I said I was calm . Kyan's replacement contacted us:

SalutationsDarrelljs of Egypt!

Kyan has steppeddown as leader of the Dutch in PBEM #17 and I will be heading up the Civ fromthis point onward. I understandour two civilizations have been on good terms and hope that this can continuein the future. Coming in at thispoint in the game, I’m still trying to get everything sorted out. So, if you’ll bear with me, a fewquestions:

· Howwould you like to be addressed?

· Whatemail address can I reach you at for diplomatic communiqués?

· Doyou have a gmail/skype?

· Whattime zone do you live in?

· Whattimes are you generally available to chat?

Just to make surewe’re on the same page. Kyan hasinformed me that we have an NAP lasting until turn 120. Can you confirm this? Are there anyspecific terms to it? Do we have any other outstanding agreements that I amunaware of?

I check thisemail address regularly if you need to get in touch with me (davidharris93@gmail.com) and am available to chat. I also have a skype, username:oledavy.

I am in Louisianaso I am GMT–6. I am generally onlinein the early mornings and evenings if you need to speak with me.

One final matterto discuss. I understand Noviceand Spaceman have landed the Great Lighthouse AND the Pyramids. With the lush settings and no techtrading, representation-powered specialists could push them into a commandinglead mid-game, as I’m sure you’re already aware. Do you have any plans for…rectifying this situation at themoment? Does the possibility of ajoint military action at some point in the future appeal to you at all?

I eagerly awaityour response and anticipate many years of profitable exchanges between our twogreat civilizations.

Regards,

David

P.S. - I understand Krill is ded-lurking for your team. Please give him my regards

Call me Ishmael. Err...no that's not right, just call me Darrell :-). I live in Ft. Lauderdale, so your timezone +1. Or is it -1? I can never keep that straight. I have an Android phone so I am online most of the time. If I don't respond rigth away I'm either in a meeting or my kids are causing more trouble than normal.



Indeed nospace had such a lead that on one turn all teams declared war on them, breaking open borders, and Shoot the Moon killed a GM of theirs. We have been cooperating closely, the thought was you would supply a navy and we would supply the army given the logistics. There were no concrete war plans, that was just the approach we would take if we decided war was necessary. The NAP we have is not exactly as Kyan described it. My recollection was it was an open ended NAP with a 10 turn cancellation. That is, you tell me the NAP is not renewed, and 10 turns later you are free to declare. Is that okay with you?

Darrell

[darrelljs]

Chat log dump, rego style.

darrelljs: Hello


Sent at 9:36 AM on Thursday
David: hey Darrel!
sorry, was afk


darrelljs: no worries


David: thanks for your quick response
actually, was just drafting a reply to you
yes I am fine with the current NAP arrangement


darrelljs: np, its tough getting ramped up in a game midway through


David: prefer it actually to the arrangement Kyan mentioned


darrelljs: cool
less to remember


David: lol, awesome
if you can talk right now, have an idea to run by you
regarding nospace


darrelljs: sure, go for it


David: okay, I am producing a GP in 15 turns


darrelljs: P = Prophet or Person?


David: person
engineer or scientist


darrelljs: cool


David: I intend to use him to start a golden age
and temp revolt into vassalage
to build up my military
I can easily make some of these builds offensive in nature
if the prospect of war with Nospace interests you
in ~20 turns I could contribute


darrelljs: Krill and I looked at it, and right now we don't think we can do anyting offensively
It seemed like the best bet was to try and get some key techs and the coordinate soemtihng in the ren era
the problem is right now they have access to maces and crossbows
very tough to crack
on top of that they got circumnavigation so the naval logistics are difficult


David: gah, did not know all that
okay, scratch my hasty plan then x-(


darrelljs: no worries
my experience with these kinds of games is you need to be very, very careful when you strike
if you don't have a clear advantage, you are most likely to crash your economy and drop out of the running
we should keep in touch however, and maybe revisit the topic in about 20 turns?


David: agreed, am concerned about their potential
that and I just don't want this game to be a total buildfest


darrelljs: heh-heh...no fear there, I'm sure we'll have fireworks
the key is to have close allies you can trust, we were counting on Kyan in that regard, so now we are counting on you!


David: lol, likewise, would like to have someone I can trust
especially given the n00b I am at Civ4 multiplayer


darrelljs: Heck this is only my 5th or 6th game
the learning curve is steep I've found
hopefully kyan can stick arond to give you advice


Sent at 9:49 AM on Thursday
David: he said he would
quick question, dik if you can help
I sent the save on nearly 9 hours ago
and the tracker still says I have it?
or rather Kyan has it


darrelljs: oh, I needt o update the php file
it uses the email address it gets the save from to figure out whose turn it is
I will add your address to kyan's "team"


David: oh, lol, was afriad I screwed up the first transfer


darrelljs: then it will function properly
nope


David: okay, thanks, lol
appreciate your help


darrelljs: np


Sent at 9:51 AM on Thursday
David: can we send screenshots to each other in this game?


darrelljs: yes, that is allowed
in fact we sent some to kyan
we can exchange fresh ones if you like


David: okay, just wondering for when the time comes to go after Nospace
yes would appreciate that actually


darrelljs: we'll have paper by then


David: the black map intimidates me


darrelljs: but we can send shots to show deployments


David: okay, will send you a screenshot after the next turn if you'll send me one of the Egyptian realms
which on a random note
how do you upload screenshots to the RB forums?


darrelljs: I use imageshack
most people use that or dropbox I think


David: okay dokey
yeah, I'm new to posting stuff online obviously


darrelljs: its pretty easy to use iether of those


Sent at 9:57 AM on Thursday
David: okay, thanks
oh, and on a final note
I renamed my cities on a very silly theme
the Templar cities from the Apolyton Demogame :D


darrelljs: hah-hah


David: of course they never got past 5


darrelljs: that's not a good omen man


David: but I filled in the blanks
eh...we'll see lol
maybe I can redeem the name - Knights Templar
or mabe I can just pull some weedy moves

Darrell