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[NO PLAYERS] The Kibitzer Klub: PB13 Map & Lurkers

I wonder if Plako will change tack and try to nab stuff from Bigger and maybe Bacchus. I doubt it, but he will likely consider it.
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Am I the only person who thinks that Viking team shouldn't bother itself with Bacchus right now?
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(February 19th, 2014, 17:58)Gavagai Wrote: Am I the only person who thinks that Viking team shouldn't bother itself with Bacchus right now?

If the cost is minimal, they should definitely punish Bacchus. Terrible diplomacy deserves severe punishment, and Bacchus' aggression against them was as bad a play as I've seen in a while. He literally got nothing out of it other than holding the city during the enforced peace period, and paid the Vikings for the privilege. No upside, lots of downside.

The question isn't so much of cost but of opportunity cost for the Vikings. They won't lose much to wreck Bacchus (and they'll get XP plus city capture gold and pillage gold if they want it), but they will be spending their turns attacking someone who won't really help them win the game versus attacking elsewhere, which could be somewhere that does help them win the game. Given the choice between attacking for gold or attacking for land, attacking for land is the better purely game/victory condition based option. But there's the human element. Really, Bacchus should be whacked with a stick for poking at them earlier. And that's the direction I hope they go. hammer

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Gazglum Wrote: Scooter seems pretty on top of all this, I think he's made a good enough case that Pindi will avoid poking the Commobear. I can't see this game -not- getting to the modern era now. Pindicooter and Mackoti are travelling neck and neck right now.

Hard to tell, but Commodore may be taking some initiative on his viking border. no idea what the Kevorkian pic in his thread actually means...

Regardless: popcorn
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Probably just going to flash a few rifles, and possibly galleons.
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(February 19th, 2014, 18:33)BaII Wrote: Probably just going to flash a few rifles, and possibly galleons.

This is my guess. He observed Viking ships "lined up in the shipping lanes" or some similar wording. From his perspective, how could he think anything other than they may be gunning for him? A not-so-subtle reminder that he's technologically relevant and not asleep at the switch seems like a fine means of dissuading potential Viking adventuring. Rifles are totally the right move for Commodore here, even though Vikings will be tooling around with grens.
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Grens only work on offence. Then again, if upgraded from zerks, Vikings have a window of opportunity to turn off the slider and break things that no one else can really match.

Not that they need to turn the slider off for more than 2 turns to that.
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Right. I don't think Com has any notion of back footing the Vikings and taking the fight to them with his fancy rifles. I'm say ing even on defense the drafted rifles are his best option, hammer wise and probably outright winning, against amphibious grens. Grens are +25% vs. rifles, right?
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Well looking at it Grens get a 50% boost, though if Com flashes some rifles it will show that he is pretty close to Cav's, the counter to Grens.
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Peace treaties are broken, nerf peace treaties!
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