[Spoilers - Flauros (sunrise089 and darrelljs)]

[darrelljs]

uberfish did indeed kill Ilios on his turn, that glory hog :neenernee. Good game Iliios, I sincerely hope you win your next one . Some oddness with borders that hopefully will sort itself out next turn:



Dotmap for the former Malakim lands:



All the Settlers finished this turn or next turn. Going to be wasting some hammers in my HE city for a while, I think the excess overflow beyond one Vampire turns into gold?



With no Spectres, we get a "true" power graph:



Full demographis also "true" now that uberfish is out of his golden age:



His GNP lead is significant although not quite that bad as he out cultures me. We compared rates and he's a solid 30% or so better than me. right now. Of course, the question is does that translate into one more "useful" tech? Yeah...yeah it probably does . Noe that my MFG is +163 not shown from Governor's Manors. So aside from GNP, we are actually pretty even. Its worth noting he ha 28% of the land area to my 21%, although some of his is extended borders for tiles he can't. In any case, his economy is better. No suprirse, aristofarms work great early and elves start slow, but the roles flip sometime in the mid game. Army count:



I'm burning about 15 population every turn on drafting and feasting new Vampires. I don't think I'll stop. Around t195 I'll begin the process of killing my civ. That is, I plan on feasting my cities to the ground to get as many commando Vampires as I can. The game is over one way or the soon after that, I just need to make sure I can pay for all the troops with enough Aristofarms. When I fire my double golden age, I'll probably go Conquest until the very end. I have about...30 turns? I will have about 200 Vampires by then . Seriously.

Darrell

[Square Leg]

Where do the Lanun fit in? Are you just going to ignore them?

[darrelljs]

Where do the Lanun fit in? Are you just going to ignore them?

No, I am going to kill her when our NAP runs out. That's turn 175, and uberfish's NAP runs out t180. There are a few cities on the west of the lake he can take out then. She's got a ton of Horse Archers, Saverous, Hemah, etc. It won't necessarily be easy, but I'm not overly concerned.

Darrell

[Krill]

Why would you be with over a hundred disposable summons, eh?

[darrelljs]

Krill,

My only concern is if she can get that HA stack in my back lines. I literally can't keep up with it. I just need to keep a good eye on it. I will ask uberfish to close borders with her of course (and will do so myself) a few turns in advance.

I'm pretty busy, but I might be able to play for us before that.

If you can answer these five questions, I will allow you to play the turn .

1. Who is still in the game?

2. Of the remaining players, who do we have NAPs with and when do they expire?

3. What is the plan for the Great Prophet and Great Sage?

4. How many more Settlers do I need, and where were I going to build them?

5. What's the save password?

Darrell

[darrelljs]

Okay sunrise089 either didn't bite or didn't see my post . Let's start this turn's report with some math. First, what's the best way to build Vampires? Option one is build Vampires, and every 6 turns draft a Vampire for 3 population. Option two is adopt Conquest and just build, baby. Conquest is going to cost me about 8 food/city, but it will still add around 10 hammers/turn. That means I am getting an extra 60 hammers over 6 turns. A Vampire costs 120 hammers. So drafting is more efficient. Drafting also has the advantage that I can grow 2 net population per 6 turn drafting cycle, although due to Settler builds that hasn't really happened yet. That needs to start happening, so new rule: draft caps.

I want to attack uberfish t200, but I need to be in position t199 to put blocking Spectres in his path. This means I need to finish my feasting t196 to give me time to redeploy. The feasting plan is 7 Vampires/city, feasting every turn, for five turns, taking a city from 30 to 10 populations. That's a total of 350 experience, or 50 per vampire. That is enough for C4, Commano, Mobility, and Death II. I need my cities to be at size 30 by t192, which is 27 turns away. Cities are growing every turn, so for example a size 11 city would hit 38, which means it can get draft/feasted twice. Cities between size 7 and size 10 can get draft/feasted once. Cities under size 7 can't ge draft/feasted.

Double Draft Cities
Nubia
Morr'ta'nar
Adonias
Argenteria
Jubilee
Guell

Single Draft Cities
Prespur
Vincon
Hexam
San'ta'ron
Krinera
Pavu'nar
Sol Invictus
Horus
Itos
Helios

In fact, some of these cities don't have the trifecta food buildsi yet for 60% food retention, and might not grow 1/turn at the high end. So I will probably wait on drafting until 12 turns before Feastday (your most popular Calabim national holiday) on the double draft cities and 6 turns before on the single draft cities.

Now, golden ages. I have 18 turns of golden ages coming up. I want the golden age to end three turns into my feasting cycle, or t194. That means I need to fire the golden age on t176. I do want to build Gibbon and have enough time to get Mobility and Ice III of course. I have a Commando Post and Shrine of the Champion in my HE city, and Gibbon is a one turn build. That means I need 8 turns to get Ice III (can anyone confirm Gibbons starts with no free promotions)? I will go for CoE and Nationhood on t192, so I have Ice III right on t200. This gives the following timeline:

t175 - Attack Amelia
t176 - Double Golden Age
t178 - Draft from "double cities"
t184 - Draft from "single" cities
t192 - Adopt CoE, Celebrate Feastday
t194 - Golden Age ends
t197 - Feastday ends
t199 - In position
t200 - Cast the die

Darrell

[darrelljs]

Nothing much to report on this turn...Settlers on the move, Settlers almost done. I need to decide how to pop borders. Ritualists are ideal except the AC is so nasty. I could do Thane pops I suppose. Oh, this is worth showing I reckon:



This is humorous:



Darrell

[darrelljs]

A few recent chats with Amelia, our NAP ends t175 so that's d-day. I didn't see any point hiding it from him. Also, he was bummed to learn we have Courage on our Vampires. Saverous took the Fear promotion .

Darrell

[Krill]

There comes a point where more food just isn't the right answer...

[Sciz]

how do you have so much food