[SPOILERS] Novice forgets to log out

[novice]

Okay, starts are done, and map is about to be "in review", not much major will change. If you guys want to snake pick, go ahead, only extra piece of information I'd like you to have is that there are no grains at your start.

Thanks for telling me, I guess... That's though.

[novice]

Hunting->AH is 11 turns, a worker with a dud start is 10 turns. A worker with a plains hill start is 8 turns. In that case one would have to hope for a Deer resource I guess, or one could grow to size 2 in 5 and then complete a worker in 7.

With a seafood start hopefully everybody has the same handicap of having to tech fishing... At least Fishing+TW enable Pottery, so you could skip Agriculture. If you grow to 2 while teching fishing (assuming you have a 3f tile available), you can get Fishing->Hunting->AH before the worker completes. If you start the worker while teching Fishing, the worker completes before AH (unless you grow to 2 after completing the workboat but before completing the worker).

[pindicator]

What if its all bananas and whales for food?
You know, hypothetically

[Krill]

The only Fishing/Wheel civ is Japan.

[novice]

OK, so Zak picked Spi/Org, Dazed picked Cre/Org and BGN picked Cre/Ind. Not what I expected, pity I didn't get Louis.

I could pick Ind just to nerf BGN a bit, but it's also tempting to just pick Cre/Imp and a Fishing civ and be guaranteed a fast start.

Fishing civs:

Code:

America, Navy SEAL, Mall, Agriculture, Fishing
Carthage, Numidian Cavalry, Cothon, Fishing, Mining
Dutch, East Indiaman, Dike, Agriculture, Fishing
England, Redcoat, Stock Exchange, Fishing, Mining
Greece, Phalanx, Odeon, Fishing, Hunting
Japan, Samurai, Shale Plant, Fishing, The Wheel
Native Americans, Dog Soldier, Totem Pole, Fishing, Agriculture
Portugal, Carrack, Feitoria, Fishing, Mining
Rome, Praetorian, Forum, Fishing, Mining
Spain, Conquistador, Citadel, Fishing, Mysticism
Vikings, Beserker, Trading Post, Fishing, Hunting

Filtering out the Agri/Fishing civs:

Code:

Carthage, Numidian Cavalry, Cothon, Fishing, Mining
England, Redcoat, Stock Exchange, Fishing, Mining
Greece, Phalanx, Odeon, Fishing, Hunting
Japan, Samurai, Shale Plant, Fishing, The Wheel
Portugal, Carrack, Feitoria, Fishing, Mining
Rome, Praetorian, Forum, Fishing, Mining
Spain, Conquistador, Citadel, Fishing, Mysticism
Vikings, Beserker, Trading Post, Fishing, Hunting

Hmm...

[novice]

Cathy of Rome and Cathy of England would be solid choices. However I'm really liking the idea of Cathy of Greece. Creative Odeons for +3 culture and +2 happy, and for the early game we have Axemen who aren't vulnerable to Chariots? Sounds pretty sweet, actually.

I can tech an early math and currency, letting hammer-heavy cities build wealth, and instead of the standard calendar play for happiness I can get construction.

[novice]

Why can't I have a dedlurker?

23:55
krill.krill: Henge

me: hm yeah that's an option

so what do you suggest?
23:56
krill.krill: I'm spoiled, so no comment

me: gah
23:58
eh why mess around building henge when you can just pick Cre

shrine?

krill.krill: It's a playstyle thing
23:59
NO one ever thinks how their picks affect other people, or their strategies

*No

me: Cre/Imp sounds fun though

krill.krill: Yeah

me: If I was going to think about that I'd never be able to decide anything...
00:00
Louis is a lock for Mids

Cre/Org and Spi/Org, I'm not sure what their gameplan is frankly
00:01
krill.krill: I couldn't comment either way

If I knew or not.

me: yeah anyway I'm not sure how to adapt to those choices...
00:03
Cathy of Greece sounds like the ultimate "don't rush me and don't culture war me" combo though.

krill.krill: Pretty much

Greek UB is fun if you want to GA bomb people

me: ooh yeah, artist slots too
00:04
ok I'm gonna pick it and move things along, I want something fun and easy to play anyway.

you can comment in the lurker thread

krill.krill: I already have done

Good luck as well

me: thanks

[NobleHelium]

I'll be your lurker novice.

If only to complain about the map.

[novice]

I'll be your lurker novice.

If only to complain about the map.

[NobleHelium]

So, I take it you picked Catherine as the most Pyramids-independent choice?