Rebalancing Civ4: RtR Mod

[plako]

Why "Free Speech" has "Corporations have no effect"?

Rbmod has no corporations.

[Bigger]

Just switch Free Speech and Environmentalism to original locations. No need for other changes. Swords getting +30% city attack would be worth testing, but I wouldn't give them anything else.

yes please do this. I agree with Plako.

[Commodore]

Just switch Free Speech and Environmentalism to original locations. No need for other changes. Swords getting +30% city attack would be worth testing, but I wouldn't give them anything else.

yes please do this. I agree with Plako.

Um. Why would you do this? If you're running the Caste SE, then you're running State Property. No +1g to specialists would ever tempt me to do otherwise.

Free Speech being a low cost civic would be a simpler change by far.

[Ruff_Hi]

Would there be any interest in playing a RB Mod adventure or epic?

The AI sucks balls.

Is there a better way for people that haven't followed the 10k ins-and-outs of this mod to get familiar with it?

[Krill]

Sure, run it, but I don't think you'd get more than half a dozen people playing it.

[NobleHelium]

You can play SP games by yourself, you know. They are called single player games.

[Commodore]

That hostility is baffling. Ruff, I'm not interested in playing myself but if you wanted me to roll an adventure map I'd be happy to.

[pindicator]

Now i'm wondering if there's enough interest for an RB-sanctioned RB Mod Adventure...

[Bigger]

Just switch Free Speech and Environmentalism to original locations. No need for other changes. Swords getting +30% city attack would be worth testing, but I wouldn't give them anything else.

yes please do this. I agree with Plako.

Um. Why would you do this? If you're running the Caste SE, then you're running State Property. No +1g to specialists would ever tempt me to do otherwise.

Free Speech being a low cost civic would be a simpler change by far.

well thats the rub, isn't it? With all the balancing to Free Market and Environmentalism, SP is still as strong as ever. every economy wants to run it. SE, sure, but even a cottage economy is probably better off w/ SP over free speech, unless its just a tiny backward empire. The fact that workshops are fully unlocked w/ guilds instead of chemistry also means almost everyone will have more workshops on the ground than they would in BTS, too, making SP even more attractive.

I don't think most cottage economies can justify skipping SP, but caste SE economies might, for environmentalism. especially with other factors (PHI, mali mints, whatever). environmentalism is just a much stronger civic than free speech and stacks up against free market and SP much better.

as it stands I see very little use for Free speech. it was very viable in bts, but not overpowered. in rbmod, I'm not sure it can even compete w/ Free Market, much less SP. even if it beats Free market (say, always war or a civ with few open borders - or maybe someone that just builds cottages everywhere, forsaking hammers altogethor), it isn't discovered until you nearly have communism, so its window is so small, maybe only available for SPI civs that don't mind revolting to it for the short term. It's very niche - short term use by SPI civs and for those that need it for a CV.

at the very least is should be moved back to liberalism (along with environmentalism - so what if liberalism unlocks a crapload of civics), so that its window can be bigger.

[T-hawk]

Now i'm wondering if there's enough interest for an RB-sanctioned RB Mod Adventure...

This could happen. It would need a sponsor highly familiar with the mod and capable of setting out some well-designed goals to explore aspects of the mod. That sponsor is not me but I would work with one to hammer such an event into shape.