RBP2 Lurker Discussion Thread - No Players!

[antisocialmunky]

I don't think Kalin knows about the shenanigans that Jowy has been pulling with the border city and the weird diplo and the turn 85 attack.

That would have been the intellegent thing to do though a few turns back - probably still suspicious because Byz is one city. As for mass build up, it will look normal for Whosit, Kathlete can use their mass horse archers and chariot army from Byz, Jowy is well... obvious. Dantksi and Nakor can feign building up against each other.

[Swiss Pauli]

The plan is to attack at turn 85. At turn 90, Dantski will hopefully join me in the attack. Later on other might join, which I just found out from Ottomans. We should have attacked earlier at turn 75.. But Dantski insisted that we attack later on, and I couldn't have beaten them alone at that point. Now they're already suspicious at turn 75

(my bold)

Taking on Spulla required stealth and speed. Whilst Jowy could have played the diplo a lot better, Dantski's unwillingness to strike early has doomed this gambit because the extra 10 turns will give Spulla plenty of time to get an army together.

A general dogpile at T100 will certainly slow down Spulla, but if their immediate neighbours aren't a threat (Jowy crippled, Dantski not a strong enough player) then they should be able to maintain a leading position. I think Spulla may be able to turn HRE against Dantski if they can fend off his T90 assault.

[antisocialmunky]

Who knows, they might accelerate the time table once the graphs start ticking upwards.

[novice]

Who knows, they might accelerate the time table once the graphs start ticking upwards.

...or the CoW could fall apart before it even gets going.

[Shoot the Moon]

...or the CoW could fall apart before it even gets going.

Or they could all send only 5 units each in a completely unorganized fashion and get wiped. My guess is that that is the most likely to happen, everyone in the alliance will want to build/whip the least amount possible and rely on others (this will be especially true for those who are further away -- their whipping or building must come sooner).

[SleepingMoogle]

Part of me wants it to slow Spulla down a little, but I have to agree that despite the amount of emails being sent back and forth, the idea seems very unorganized so far. That, and Jowy's diplo may move India to annex Greece before the attack can even start in earnest.

It also remains to see if Whosit will be able to field more than a token force while securing his own borders from possible Korean aggression, and whether Dantski and DMOC/Nakor can stay on friendly terms for much longer. A lot of relations can sour in the next 25 turns..

Anyway, I do have to compliment the Ottomans for their efforts so far. Whether or not the CoW is ultimately succesful, they are more less succeeding in knocking a strong contender out of the game, deflecting the diplomacy fallout from declaring on the Byzantines, and turning most civs against the other powerhouse, all whilst setting themselves up to be the next runaway civ. I just wonder how long it will take the other CoW-participants to realize it.

[Shoot the Moon]

Anyway, I do have to compliment the Ottomans for their efforts so far. Whether or not the CoW is ultimately succesful, they are more less succeeding in knocking a strong contender out of the game, deflecting the diplomacy fallout from declaring on the Byzantines, and turning most civs against the other powerhouse, all whilst setting themselves up to be the next runaway civ. I just wonder how long it will take the other CoW-participants to realize it.

I think the Ottomans have probably played the strongest diplomacy game so far, and one of the stronger openings otherwise (Spulla being the obvious run-away in that category).

Slightly unrelated, but: does anyone else find it a little ironic that Jowy mistrusts Sulla and Byz because he feels that they may be playing both sides, but that is exactly what his best-buddy athlete has done to perfection diplomatically?

[antisocialmunky]

He's not exactly trying to play two people off against each other, he's using everyone's concern over Spullla to win the game for his team.

[Shoot the Moon]

He's not exactly trying to play two people off against each other, he's using everyone's concern over Spullla to win the game for his team.

That's still pretty similar to regorrarr trying to use people's concern over athlete becoming powerful to get metal, right?

[Krill]

Athlete also has IKZ next to them; late game that is going to be a big dust up, both having killed their other neighbours.

Spullla are just teching a little too fast for comfort...that's the big difference. In this game tech is much more important, and much easier to cripple...