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[SPOILERS] By the Rivers of Babylon, FIN has no effect (on krovice)

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March 20th, 2015, 01:32
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(March 20th, 2015, 01:07)fluffyflyingpig Wrote: Did you actually expect this game to reach coal and oil?

That's not the point, and never is. People didn't expect PB1 to reach the modern era - but it did. There are maybe a dozen examples of that on this forum. And that's why we balance for it.
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March 20th, 2015, 02:12
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No its not the point, but in a 33 person game it is a fair question.
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March 20th, 2015, 10:03
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(March 20th, 2015, 01:07)fluffyflyingpig Wrote: Did you actually expect this game to reach coal and oil?

PB5: 10 players: ends as reaching Assembly Line
PB8: 11 players: conceded as reaching Assembly Line, but could have gone another 30 turns.
PB13: 18 players: Modern era and still not a certain outcome (it's down as a draw)
PB18: 33 players: Er...yeah, this things going to the finish.

General rule: 4-7 players, game can end in the Ren era. 6-12 end around Ind era. Over 12 go the full length.
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March 20th, 2015, 12:38
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Games with more people tend to last longer : isn't it a corollary of the KTB ?
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March 20th, 2015, 12:40
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Yeah, but I don't think that the KTB changes are the main cause. I'm certain that the spread of first to bonuses has a major effect as well.
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March 23rd, 2015, 19:02 (This post was last modified: March 23rd, 2015, 19:03 by Krill.)
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Turns out that Horse archers beat rifles on defense.

Who knew, right?

Up to 2600bpt max now though.
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March 24th, 2015, 21:52
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The rule assumes dropouts are replaced and the game isn't strangled in the cradle.

At what point do games get too large and become liable to explode in startup? Incidentally, there's this odd gap in the numbering of the active PB games...
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March 24th, 2015, 22:39
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Rule is irrelevant for balancing resources, though. I mean, it's just strictly better to just give one of all of the late-game strats at the capital. Sure, it doesn't look pretty, but it's better than the situation you have here.
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March 24th, 2015, 22:42
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Yeah, that was a complete screw-up on my part, don't bother defending me here Fluffy.
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March 24th, 2015, 22:58 (This post was last modified: March 24th, 2015, 22:59 by fluffyflyingpig.)
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Don't worry, not defending you. The map is terrible and resource distribution sucks. That make you feel better? tongue

Seriously though, I remember a lot of doubt initially that the game would ever get off the ground or survive the first 50 turns.
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