RBP2 Lurker Discussion Thread - No Players!

[Reagan]

Hm. Somehow I see Sullla not reacting terribly well when he sees this gifting from Jowy to Athlete.

Yar. No matter what Jowy's level of Civ experience might be, cheese plays are still cheese plays. I hope Spullla are in a good position to keep pushing into kathlete territory to make them pay for accepting the cities.

[T-hawk]

This seems exactly the situation where an AI takeover is appropriate, though I believe it was ruled out by legislation in this game. When a player is in a lost situation and unwilling to continue playing, no solution is completely fair. But it would be more fair to the other players in the game for Sullla to attack into at least AI-controlled defense, rather than have empty cities abdicated to him and others gifted to Kathlete.

And this display of sportsmanship would most definitely carry into future games with Jowy, at least if I were involved. Attack him first since you know he's liable to just give up.

[Bobchillingworth]

I suppose the answer is something like "frustration", but why the heck did Jowy throw all his units at the KA stack, anyway? All he did was feed them experience and GG points. If he really wanted to be spiteful and/or get out of the game more quickly, it would have made more sense to just delete them after pillaging his own improvements.

[Cyneheard]

@T-Hawk's post:

It's less than 400 vs. 200: Organized religion.

They've got the Forge and OR. So the FP costs 134 base hammers, in any of their cities. Those 134 base hammers would have gotten +125% on units, for 301 hammers of units, whereas any other city would be getting 167 hammers of units. I still agree, that doing the HE + FP in the same city is inefficient, but it's 100% of the base hammers lost, not 100% of produced hammers. If they want to lose 2 extra knights to this, well, that's up to them.

[pindicator]

Gotta admit, I am a little disappointed in Jowy. I was hoping for a fight out of him, even if it would have been losing. Going out like this makes it a lot easier for Spullla to vilify him, noble level player or not.

At the same time, I wish Sullla wouldn't take the diplomatic workings of the other teams so personally. Gosh, you think breaking up the alliance might be a good strategic attempt? Sure, it was a rather ham-fisted attempt, but it also seems a little hypocritical to call out bad ideas as and then get angry at good ideas.

[Krill]

This is one of the reasons why NTT is a bad game option to play with uneven opponents. If you don;t know what you are doing, don;t play in a game where you can only rely on yourself.

[Darkmantle]

Considering Sulla was basically urging both Dantski and Nakor to carve up each others territory at the same time, I don't he has a great deal of room to complain.

Edit:I meant complaining about Nakor being a snake for trying to break up his alliance with Korea. I agree that the city gifting is cheese.

[Adlain]

I think it's the fact that they where trying to negotiate for peace using somone else's cities that really got his goat up

[Profane]

With Korea's stack pressing hard on Whosit in the east, is Cheju at great risk of falling if HRE decides to pour through the forest on the next turn? I don't think that stack can reach Cheju in time if HRE makes its move now...

Or is it a trap by Korea to lure HRE into an attack as well? I see the galleys 2 SE of Cheju seem loaded with something.

[binary010101]

Do you think Spullla's next step is to declare war on KAthlete?