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Athlete should have known that India had a GM, it is the log. He always had the option of closing borders...
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regoarrarr Wrote:Well they're not the only ones that fit that category!!!! 
I didn't have a problem with it at all
Shoot, sorry regoarrarr, sunrise and darrell - I ment no slight against you, just have a rather dodgy memory. Apologies. Please also give your veiw on it as I would like to know what all players think of it.
Krill Wrote:Athlete should have known that India had a GM, it is the log. He always had the option of closing borders...
do you need open boarders to use a gm?? Iirc spulla does not have open boarders with athlete.
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Krill Wrote:Athlete should have known that India had a GM, it is the log. He always had the option of closing borders...
GM do not need open borders.
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In which case...yeah, that is more dodgy than anticipated.
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MJW (ya that one) Wrote:GM do not need open borders.
Didn't know that. Then Great Merchant trade missions to civs without open borders doesn't harmonize very well with the no spies rule, either.
I have to run.
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Jowy Wrote:I'd definately put this right into the same category, and what makes it worse is that Spullla made it with full understanding that it's a shady move. Perhaps they've already learned from the past cases that they can do whatever they want.
I'd like to see you back that up with examples of rule infrictions, Jowy. The only blatant rule breaking in this game that I can remember right now is Whosit's gifting of a 10XP Praetorian to HRE, which both Sullla and the game admin noticed, but let slide.
And the most blatant "against-the-spirit" shenanigans we've seen must be the gifting of doomed cities that's occured all over the board.
I have to run.
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I find double moving to be much worse then what Jowy did. People did gave cities in the first pitboss and no rules where made against it. The rules are built around "good faith" which went away in this game. Without "good faith" the rules for this game are very weak. That is what is cauing 90% of the problem.
You can DoW and kill the GM; unless you have signed an unbreakable treaty. That would be really silly to use a GM to spy like that.
Can you cite past cases where Spulla did something like this; Jowy? I can't think of anything.
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novice Wrote:I'd like to see you back that up with examples of rule infrictions, Jowy. The only blatant rule breaking in this game that I can remember right now is Whosit's gifting of a 10XP Praetorian to HRE, which both Sullla and the game admin noticed, but let slide.
And the most blatant "against-the-spirit" shenanigans we've seen must be the gifting of doomed cities that's occured all over the board.
What, Rome gifted a 10XP preat? That I did not notice...
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Was it 10XP at the time? I wasn't sure whether it had been gifted as a 9/10XP unit, then Nakor killed a barb - don't think it was mentioned anywhere. Still a liberal interpretation of the ruleset, mind...
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Krill Wrote:What, Rome gifted a 10XP preat? That I did not notice...
Well, all we know is that a while back HRE had a picture with a 10 XP prat. Whether that was gifted at 10 XP or not is hard to determine.
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