[Spoilers]Krill PB80 - The Long Road out of Eden

[Krill]

Oh, one thing I hadn't considered, but which is possible: Thoth could be trying an Astro invasion of me.

It would be a bit of a brawl, he has a slight power edge at this point, but it would basically be a whip fest with no way for either side to win. I doubt he does it but you never know.

[Krill]

Oh Commodore, nice call on hiding research in PP and Constitution to limit the exposure on Democracy and an SoL build.

Looking at it, I am four techs from being able to build it, even if I landed the high odds GE, I couldn't tech there in time.

[Krill]

I have no clue what is going on this game, except I think I'm about to get eaten by anyone that can reach me. I really need to build units now I got Seowon down in most cities (max bpt 1200 at -350gpt, break even is 55% at ~840bpt)

Also, yuri is the unluckiest civ player I know, it's absurd that there is this 6 tile patch of icy, foodless highlands one tile from a huge desert.

[Krill]

We dead boyo's




Realistically, there will be more units on those boats than I have actual military. I can trigger another GA in two or three turns, and I can have Nationalism in another 2 turns, so I could swap to draft muskets. That would at least slow Commodore down, but the reality is I was too slow to get a navy out to guard the ocean between us, and he has cannons and rifles, so nothing I (or anyone) can do except feed him XP.

Edit: I should note that I now have something like 4,000 beakers stacked up as overflow, so I could divert to grab steel, or I could probably get most of Rifling, but I can't get everything. Maybe by the end of the GA I could have Nationalism, Rifling and Chemistry, but I don't see Steel or Mil Sci achievable by then even with peace.

[Krill]

Commodore started the final act and declared on Pindicator.

Thoth just picked up SoL, so along with French Salons and Rep/Merc has a straight forward 27bpt per city, which should keep him in the tech game, but je needs to make a move to get more build queus, ie, vulture stuff off PIndi, or invade me. Both are realistic options, but probably better to vulture off Pindi (each city taken is one Commodore can't get).

Personally, I'm still fine if this game gets called for Commodore, but I believe that the last hold out would be Thoth. I'm fine playing on, but I'm not going to make much of a difference, I just do not have the production: even in my golden age I'm fourth in MFG, with the most cities and highest pop I'll review next turn with RP but don't think it will make much difference).

[Krill]

I have four turns left of a GA. At the end of it I will not have half of Commodores power, I will have either Steel and 1200 gold in the bank, or half of steel and 4000 gold in the bank (Commodore will be researching Railroad so has Steel and Steam power researched, and likely half way through it. I have the GE for Mining Inc (lucky roll). I don't know if Commodore has that GE; I'll also be down Corporation and Constitution on Commodore, and Constitution, Mil Trad, Democracy on Thoth.

I have Globe down in the far south, and it is capable of two turn rifle drafts forever. We're on a small map, which I think means that with 25 other reasonable cities I can hit max drafts essentially forever. That means my worse than mediocre production can then be put into cannons and frigates. OTOH I will have observatories down in most cities at the end of the GA, so I'm likely able to keep up in tech now (ie the deficit should not grow in size).

None of this really matters as Commodore continues to gradually eat Pindi and then rolls into Yuri. Even if Thoth could eat all of Pindicators islands, Thoth would need to push on and either eat me, or invade Commodore. maybe I'm wrong, maybe Thoth can overtake Commodore in terms of tech (Fin versus Org/Ind). The idea that I could invade Commodore is laughable, and given my entire empire save two cities are coastal I'm not going to be able to defend everywhere.

I will revolt into Nationhood, but otherwise keep slavery. I might have an option of a run at Kremlin, but the reality will be that I am on the chopping block and need to power up, so I'm unlikely to have spare tech options. OTOH, It's worth heading to Railroad because of MG and it's on the run to Combustion. TBH if I put every city onto two scientists at the end of the GA (so four specs per city) I might actually be able to catch up but can't see that happening when I need to draft.

[Krill]

A question now is if Thoth is about to invade me to turn thus into some sort of race. Unfortunately I don't think it will make much difference, now that yuris invaded Pindi as well.

[Krill]

Oh no. I've probably just made a very poor move and founded Mining Inc. Now to make it even worse and beeline Cereal Mills and found that whilst Commodore is three turns from Combustion.

At least Sci Method shows oil...

[Krill]

On a slightly more serious note, I'm kinda mailing these turns in, so if anyone wants to have some fun with industrial era warfare and is unspoilt, I'll happily hand the game over (and remain unspoilt to advise). As it is I'm trying not to spoil the Commodore/Thoth death match take three.

[Krill]

Commodore had a head start on DD and has got a few in the water and is pillaging fishing boats. Thoth and I are already getting DD out and should be able to reassert some form of control. Commodore tried to use diplomacy to get me to turn on Thoth (and possibly did the same to Thoth), but I resent fish to fish to Thoth. I'm not going to win this game except in very specific circumstances, and in all of those circumstances most of Commodores' coastal cities get razed and his navy wiped out.

Thoth and Commodore are both one turn from Biology, so if Thoth has a GM he has first shot at Cereal Mills. I'm trying to save gold, but I'm 9 turns from Biology at max tax, but also down Military Tradition and, more importantly, Assembly Line, and falling behind. I do have a GM for Cereal Mills so (long shot, if I can scrape my way there I could found it, but I think Thoth has a GM).

I really need Kremlin to make any form of headway, but I figure I'm out of this due to the tech whole: once bombers come around I should be toast, and possibly sooner. But bombers are the safest way forward for Commodore in a 2v1 if I don't get Cereal Mills gets taken off the table.