I'm Miro. I have played Civ4 since release and, embarrassingly, I'm the author of one of the top Civ4-related comments on Reddit (NSFW). So as long as Catherine the Great doesn't make an appearance this game, our empire is safe!

I haven't used the CtH mod before, but glanced at the notes and I'm excited to try it out.

My main concern is how aggression plays out in these multiplayer games. Do I need to worry about players relentlessly poking to steal workers and pillage upgraded tiles, or should I expect things to stay relatively peaceful through Ancient and early Classical eras?

My opponents in this game are:
giraflorens, ricketyclik, xist10, coldrain

I know what you're thinking. They're all too cool for capitalization. They think capitalization goes hand-in-hand with capitulation. Well if I'm going down, I'm burning all my cottages with me! (jk. ...unless?)

I don't know anything about them and I like going into this blind about my opponents. I glanced at PB72's threads (excluding xist10's) to see what to expect in these games.

This (post-game?) comment from greenline to BING_XI_LAO was chilling:

Quote:I didn't realize you had spent over 10000 gold on unit upgrades. That explains how you were able to get such a doomstack in such a short amount of time.

But from a strategic point of view it was very frustrating to play against. You were playing the game against me like a duel. A duel you would have won due to tactical outplays and better unit composition, but from my point of view it was obvious that you were giving Aetryn free reign to get several key techs ahead, finish industrializing, grab Xist's land, and dominate the game. My lead on Aetryn before your buildup was slim at best, and he was going to be the player I would most likely attack.

• Don't tunnel vision on my own play, pay attention to rival goals.
  
• Get into diplomacy. Alliances and embargos can be significant and complex in multiplayer.
  
• Maintain write-ups so it's fun to look back through this thread and so you guys can help advise.
  

Startpost

I'd like to welcome my Deadlurker, Fenn

More possibly tomorrow.
Expect only limited updates here, of my 5 running stories 3 have fallen dormant and the other 2 are only moderately active.

Snakepick
Score on
1 city per deal
spies
barbs with ships
warwarriness
Coinflip for city races
NoHuts
NoEvents
NoVassals
NoTechTrading
NoUnitGifting
No Spymissions
True AI Diplo

Modified 30% water Tectonicts map; water action possible

Coldrain: Lincoln (PHI/CHA) of Native America
Giraflorens: Pacal (FIN/EXP) of Dutch (Netherlands)
xist10: Wang Kong (PRO/FIN) of Carthage
Miro: Lieu-Ye (ORG/PRO) of China
ricketyclik: Shaka (EXP/AGG) of Rome

Password:

Yep. Dedlurker thread.

Game address: pb.zulan.net:3079
Password: riro
PBSPY page: https://civ.zulan.net/pbspy/game/163/
Mod: Close to Home 5.0.0
Game thread: https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...?tid=11199

Hey,

I been playing single player civ4 with CtH mod (thank you so much Charriu) and I can win most of my games except when Sid Meier and Justinian are both in the game then they both out-tech me pretty hard and I can't figure out if there is something in the code. For example, last game, I just got MT and both were already on physics and lost communism pretty badly. Not sure what gives. Maybe I am a bad player. Help?

I am playing on Monarch difficulty at the moment.

Placeholder.

I know that most Master of Orion 1 players shun them and consider them bad. After all, they harm the targeted planet, making it worse to conquer. Nobody likes destroying their future prizes, which is part of why Chaos and especially Death are looked down upon in Master of Magic, too. But, on top of that, they also make everyone else upset and can be countered easily with the right techs.

But I wonder if we all have been overlooking them? After all, in some games the AI demonstrates how powerful they can be in wiping out planets, especially since they don't care about shielding and defenses at all. And they do have a nifty side effect; any colony affected by them still keeps its factories, making them potentially more profitable than conventional bombing runs. Still, I have to admit using them effectively seems challenging, considering their downsides.

Going to try and get the map done or mostly done before I am gone on vacation. Too optimistic?

(July 3rd, 2024, 14:02)Mjmd Wrote: As far as map, something land heavy but with some water and islands. At least 13 tiles between starting locations. Capitals make sure they are fairly nice; these are new / new ish players. 

From july 7 to july 15, I will not have computer access to play civ or post here. Will need a sub to keep the games moving

In both cases, my civ is weak and does not have a lot of decisions to make outside of immediate needs. I will post directions in my thread before leaving.

Here we go.....



[EDIT] 

Settings:

Monarch difficulty (pending Yuris, Commodore, and Pindicator)
Random civ and leaders (no Firaxis or Sid))
Map Script:  Totestra (probably)
Classical Start  with 420 points to spend.   Minimum of 1 worker, 1 archer, and 1 scout need to be purchased to fit with the default Classical start units.  Rest of points are player choice.
No War weariness
No active Spy missions (spy units are ok)
Huts ON
Events ON (and DOUBLED)
Quests for everybody ON
Raging Barbs ON
Vassal States OFF
Unit gifting OFF

Map Trading ???

[/EDIT]

to get this started, I will roll around with some map screenshots to get some feedback, the goal is to have minimal if any editing. I hope to get away with mostly balancing strategics but if I remember correctly the map generator was iffy in terms of balance.

Quote:A significant land component to the map, rather than it being wholly naval based (I would think this leans towards using Pangea or Seven Seas as the base map script)
No abundance of city states that would be easy for one player to conquer and snowball off of. If you are randomly rolling maps, just make sure the number of city states is set on the lower end
Balanced strategic resources and starting locations. The surrounding lands can be less balanced owing to how much time you are willing to put in, but ideally we don't want to see one player have a marsh sugar + plains hill deer in their capital (6f + 5hammers without improvements!) and another player have only grass cows (3f1h when improved)