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  [TECH] Pitboss 47 IT and Tech Issues Thread
Posted by: Charriu - October 13th, 2019, 13:50 - Forum: Pitboss 47 - Replies (100)

Game Rules and Settings:

Server: pb.zulan.net:2047

Game tracker: http://civ.zulan.net/pbspy/game/83/

Game Host unified tech thread (for all Zanth/Ramkhamhaeng hosted games):
http://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showt...p?tid=9510

Host: Zanth/Ramkhamhaeng
Admin: Superdeath, Charriu
Map maker: Commodore
Starting date: October 12, 2019
Mod: RtR_BugBeta_0.4

Mod Changelog: Available here (Note: Test mod with new naval movement changes and Native American Totem pole at Archery instead of Mysticism).
Turn Timer: 24 hours (turn timer adjusted so each turn is 24 hours in real life)

Fix for unblocking of other players and faster login: http://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/showt...#pid703171


Rules:

Quote:Difficulty: Prince
Speed: Normal
Era: Ancient
Turn speed: 24 hours/turn (ingame clock adjusted to keep turns to 24 hours)

Game options: Unrestricted Leaders (well duh) - snake pick.
No Tech Trading
No Vassal States
No Tribal Villages
No Map Trading
AI Diplo

Double moves: Don't be a jerk aka normal RB double move rules. If in doubt or a newb, ask the lurkers.

Signups:

Quote:AutomatedTeller - Justinian [SPI/IMP] of Inca
Krill - Gandhi [SPI/PHI] of Aztecs
Ruff_Hi - Churchill [PRO/CHM] of India
Mr. Cairo - De Gaulle [IND/CHM] of Native America
superdeath - Boudicca [AGG/CHM] of Mongolia
GeneralKilCavalry - Pacal [EXP/FIN] of Carthage


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  Civilization 3 Heroes of Might & Magic 3 Mod!
Posted by: Blake00 - October 12th, 2019, 03:41 - Forum: Civilization General Discussion - Replies (14)

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I'm a huge Civ and HoMM series fan yet somehow I didn't know about the Conquests of Might & Magic 3 - Civilization 3 Mod until recently lol!!!

Basically this guy has completely converted Civilization 3's UI, graphics, units, techs, factions etc to be in the Heroes of Might and Magic universe. Looks like he's gone in a very HoMM3 direction (with a bit of HoMM4) which is cool. I've mucked around with a few Civ3 mods in my time and I've never seen so many elements changed so much. He's even got HoMM3 unit upgrades in there lol! Obviously being a Civ game we're not going to get zoomed in combat but his mod allows for some very fun situations eg being able to colonize/make new cities, farm the lands and expand all over huge worlds effectively carving out your own story. Basically a more sandboxy global HoMM3 haha!

Annoyingly most of his picture links are dead but thankfully I found some working one's which I'll stick below. I don't think he's working on it anymore however from the sound of things in his thread he's actually finished it! If he visits CivFanatics again I might try and talk him into making a ModDB page. Can't wait to play it properly!!

Quotes of picture and info posts I found at CivFanatics:

tom2050 Wrote:Game Screenshots:

Gameplay
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Civilopedia
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Advisors
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Armageddon's Blade (Spaceship Victory)
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tom2050 Wrote:Civilizations and Units

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A huge variety of spells (converted from HoMM3) are also included, as well as many additional misc graphics.

Castle - Castles are home to the Cleric and Knight hero classes. Castle armies are primarily composed of human men-at-arms, though these towns have also formed an alliance with the griffins and are under the protection of angels. With two types of ranged attack units and two flying unit types available, Castle-based armies are well equipped to quickly engage and defeat their enemies.

Inferno - Inferno towns can be found in Erathian regions blighted by the emergence of the underworld on the surface. Demoniac and Heretic heroes stand in uneasy alliance with these towns. Inferno armies have great hand-to-hand attack units and are only slightly hampered at the lower levels by a lack of flying units until the awesome, teleporting devil and arch devil units can be brought into play.

Neutrals - Neutral creatures are those that reside in the land of Antagarich whom do not normally belong to a specific town type. The neutral town is the only town capable of building structures that will produce Level 8 and Level 10 creatures. They do not have any special town buildings or a grail structure, but can become a serious threat if left unchecked.

Dungeon - Dungeon towns are built by Warlock and Overlord hero types to act as bases from which to wage campaigns of conquest for wealth and power. Similarly minded creatures are attracted as allies. Other Dungeon creatures are in thrall to their masters. Dungeon armies are possessed of a variety of long range attacks, have effective damage dealing troops, and have the ability to greatly disrupt the strategies of their enemies.

Conflux - Conflux is the town of the Planeswalkers and Elemental Lords. Nobody knows why they have suddenly decided to appear in this world and assist the humans with Catherine Ironfist in the head to fight Kreegans invasion on Antagarich. The Elemental Lords didn't reveal their reasons, though their help was invaluable and happened to be the decisive factor in the final victory of the humans over the devilish aliens. It was in the war for the fable monstrous Armageddon's Blade that the first sightings of the strange Conflux towns have been reported.

Necropolis - Necropolis towns are overrun and ruled by undead creatures. They are natural bases for the Necromancer and Death Knight hero types. Necropolis armies have many units with abilities to weaken their opponents. One of their greatest strengths is the ability to amass countless numbers of skeletons. This quickly gives them an edge over equal or even more powerful enemy units.

Fortress - Fortress towns are built at the edge of swamps and are often used as bases by the Beastmaster and Witch hero classes. Their armies are primarily made up of deadly creatures--born of the swamps, and then subdued and trained for warfare. While among them there is only one ranged attack creature, Fortress units are possessed of many special abilities to offset this deficiency.

Tower - Wizards and Alchemists study their arcane craft in Towers. Tower populations are comprised creatures bound into service by powerful magic, made on the spot, or allied with the town through ancient pacts. Tower armies have uniformly good stats and some of the best range attack units available.

Rampart - The Druid and Ranger hero classes are native to Ramparts, which are built by creatures in allied defense of the unspoiled wilderness regions of Erathia. With two slow unit types, Dwarves and Dendroids, Rampart armies may be best suited to defensive tactics. Most of these creatures, however, have enemy hampering abilities that can be used to turn the tide against many opponents--especially those dependent on magical attacks.

Stronghold - Stronghold towns are built by alliances of tribes and are frequented by the Barbarian and Battle Mage hero types. Armies composed of Stronghold-based units have a balanced mix of ranged and hand-to-hand attackers. With the inclusion of the stronger units, these armies are particularly well-equipped to deal with attacks on other towns.

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That is how far I've gotten in 83 turns. Been building city improvements and doing a small amount of exploring. The borders are from Pounder's Stockade Mark I mod in case you're wondering.

mythusmage Wrote:After 107 days of my last game I have this bit of advice for folks.

1. Don't build scouts. You have too great a chance of meeting raiding parties and losing the scout. Build combat units instead and let them go exploring.

2. Workers, lots of workers.

I'm starting a new game to try out building a lot of workers, so what follows is the sole screen capture for the last game.

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Rainbow Complete History of Civilization Game Series
Posted by: Blake00 - October 12th, 2019, 03:28 - Forum: Civilization General Discussion - No Replies

Hi guys!

One of the reasons I decided to return to the Civilization series in 2018 and replay all the earlier games and start working on a Civilization Website website (currently in a VERY rough under construction state lol) was because PC Gamer (Issue 311 - Dec 2017) did an awesome 14 page spread on the history of the Civilization series covering all the main games with behind the scenes info and new interviews with Sid Meier, Bryan Reynolds and Jeff Briggs to name a few. It really got me thinking about the games again and how much I miss them. Because they had such an impact on me I figured I may as well share them with other fellow Civ fans that might enjoy them.

Ive only scanned the first 2 pages of the PC Gamer one as fortunately I found an online copy here:
https://www.pcgamer.com/au/the-complete-...ilization/

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Then just by pure coincidence while cleaning out my spare room I found an old Australian PC Powerplay magazine (Issue 112 - May 2005) with a beautiful visual tribute to classic Civilization 1 and an interview with Bruce Shelley. This article became a big inspiration for how Id do my website tribute (eg colourful map of the world background). Heres my scans of that if anyone is interested (I very much doubt this is on the net anywhere!):
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Gamasutra also did a cool history of the series back in 2007 that people may wish to read as once again its got some good interviews:
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/1...hp?print=1

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And finally if all that isnt enough and you REALLY want to get into the nuts and bolts of the making of the series then check out this HUGE crowdfunded history write up by Jimmy Maher that goes into incredible detail about the games, how it all started and the troubles Sid went through just to get Civ 1 made. Its very long but very informative and well written!
https://www.filfre.net/2018/03/the-game-...ilization/

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Hope people enjoy the read as much as I did! smile

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Brick Enhanced Mars, MasterOfMagic, MasterOfOrion ToT scenarios + ToT graphics for MGE mod
Posted by: Blake00 - October 12th, 2019, 03:20 - Forum: Civilization General Discussion - Replies (7)

Hi guys,

I've recently been playing a lot of Test of Time (as I barely touched it back in the day) and have been having a lot of fun.

With Civilization 2 MGE I loved playing the Mars, Master of Magic Jr & Master of Orion Jr scenarios. I recently discovered Kestrel's excellent ToT conversion/remake of the Mars scenario and am now curious about the others however I haven't been able to find anything here, on Catfish's site or the League wiki. However the Mars remake isn't on any of them either so I figure its worth asking the gurus here about the others!

  1. Is there a ToT fan make conversion and/or remake of the FW Master of Magic Jr scenario? ToTs linked maps would allow for the mirror world Myrran to be added and all sorts of other cool stuff. I'm playing Midgard at the moment and I just keep thinking "omg if only someone used this stuff to remake the MoM scenario!". If anyone here is a guru with that difficult MGE to ToT scenario converter program and thinks they can convert it for me (I'll do the rest lol) please let me know! FOUND ONE HERE (Although let me know if you know of more out there)

  2. Is there a ToT fan make conversion and/or remake of the FW Master of Orion Jr scenario? I've seen some ToT Star Wars & Star Trek scenarios using MGE MOO scenario style space gameplay but with nicer space graphics of course yet haven't found an actual MOO remake scenario in ToT. FOUND ONE HERE (Although let me know if you know of more out there)

  3. Final question is a different and rather out there one lol. I've seen all the cool Civ2 style graphics and gui overhauls for ToT on Catfish's site however I know there are a lot of MGE fans out there who for various reasons don't want to play ToT. So I'm curious to know if anyone ever made a (obviously non-animating) ToT style graphics set for MGE mod (eg terrain, units, city & dark gui) using the best closest matching 8bit colour equivalents? FOUND ONE HERE (Although let me know if you know of a better one out there or who made that one)

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  What is the absolute best way to play MOO1?
Posted by: LordKane773 - October 10th, 2019, 11:14 - Forum: Master of Orion - Replies (11)

So I am deciding to give a play of  Master of Orion 1 since I missed out on it, and Played MOO2 and Wargaming's Master of Orion Conquer the Stars.

I am a bit lost on how to enjoy this classic and I know of three methods:

1. Dosbox + 1.31
2. Dosbox + 1.40m
3. 1oom 1.0

So which is the best way? which has the most bugs? which has the least?
I heard 1oom is good, but since the creator of 1oom is gone and MIA, I hear it still has issues and the only major active fork i.e that gets updates, has not binaries out at all.
how about 1.40m will that give a relatively good experience? 1oom?
give me some input.

-Lord_Kane

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  (Bugs Thread) BUGemon - gonna catch them all
Posted by: Charriu - October 9th, 2019, 12:40 - Forum: Pitboss 47 - Replies (57)

I said earlier that I will start a bug thread for you all. The purpose of this is to inform me and/or the others about any bugs you find. For this to work I need you to do the following:

  1. Please post your password in your thread (first post)
  2. If you find something make a post here and describe what you noticed.
  3. In case the info regarding the bug is considered spoiler, then make a post in your thread describe your findings and leave a short message here. I will come to your thread then. smile
  4. Should you post a bug in your thread, please don't bury it in your usual reporting. Make an extra post for it. Should make life easier for everyone.
  5. Most important: When you found a bug, please pause the game. That way I hopefully can reproduce the bug and find any logs I may need
  6. Bonus, but optional. Should you have knowledge about civs log system then feel free to post the log too.

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  haphazard1 tries Dominus Galaxia
Posted by: haphazard1 - October 8th, 2019, 21:01 - Forum: Master of Orion - Replies (6)

Dominus Galaxia is a 4x space strategy game with a lot of MOO influence in its DNA. The Kickstarter for the game has recently launched and there is a playable build available. Similar to RFS-81's Let's Play thread (before reality apparently intervened frown), I am going to report on my initial attempt at the game. It looks promising, and maybe if there is enough interest we could get an SG going. Hopefully there will be enough people who find the game appealing to fund the project.

After a bit of adjustment of video settings and the like (ah, modern amenities, very nice nod), I start a new game.

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There are a number of options available for size and shape of galaxy, how densely spaced races are, and of course difficulty. I pick the 'Thick Ring' galaxy shape (one of 20 choices) and keep the suggested number of 65 stars. Normal game mode and average opponent spacing are fine, and for this first attempt I choose Veteran difficulty. I am new to Dominus Galaxia but have played a lot of MOO over the years, so hopefully I am not getting in over my head here. If new mechanics trip me up, well, hopefully it will at least be entertaining. lol

I pick Static AI, which according to the tool tip (the game has abundant tool tips, with lots of useful info) means the AI will play to that particular level regardless of my performance or lack thereof. Dynamic AI will apparently try to adjust the AI performance based on the player's to represent the selected level of challenge. There is also an option to set a blanket bonus to AI production; for this first game I leave that alone.

Next up is game options; I go to the advanced screen.

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The drop down at the lower left has some pre-set choices such as classic rules for an experience closest to the original MOO or inclusive for the intended Dominus Galaxia experience. I go to the custom option which lets you pick and choose specific rules and mechanics. I mostly go with the suggested defaults, but I do change how expansion works to require colony ships to settle new worlds. By default population can be transported to new worlds once you have explored them (and if they are habitable with your tech), without needing a colony ship. I like the mechanic of needing a dedicated ship with special equipment to found a new colony, although I assume it will slow the game pace as the production required for colony ships will not be going into research or fleets.

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Next is choosing your race. Presently there are two options available to play, Humans and Spixnih. I am a primate chauvinist lol so I go with Humans, who get a discount on fleet maintenance costs and are quite good at force fields and better than average at biology and propulsion. I do get a penalty at weapons; what sort of weird universe is this where humans are not good at developing ways to kill things? rolleye

The game generates the galaxy and here is our lovely homeworld Sol:

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Lots of things to notice on this screen. First, we can not see the entire galaxy -- our long range scanners only extend perhaps a dozen parsecs. (Not sure exactly how far they reach.) Systems that are within long range scans show as generic points and we have no info other than that they exist and their distance. Systems closer to our controlled worlds show as an orb of the star's color; these colors appear to follow the familiar pattern from MOO as the tool tips indicate red stars have old worlds, blue stars are young and hot, etc.

Second, star lanes connect some systems. You can move between systems without a star lane but at a movement penalty. I am unsure of the star lanes idea but it should provide some interesting choices later in the game. And they can be turned off in the game options if desired.

Next, there is some info at the upper right on our existing treasury (we start with a nice pile of BCs) plus expenses and research (none started yet). The tool tip for our expenses is shown, and it breaks down where our money is going. We are spending a bit over 12 BC/turn on ships, with roughly two thirds of that being to support our starting colony ship. Remember that we are getting a break on maintenence as Humans, so this would be more costly for other races. (A bit more on our starting fleet in a moment.) Not shown is the tool tip for our treasury which provides a similar break down of our income. We are currently making about 10 BC/turn, half from our population and half from interest on our reserves. Nice to actually earn some money on our treasury balance. nod We are running a slight deficit, but with our starting cash this is not a problem. And once our colony ship is used to found a second world, our expenses will drop significantly and we will be running cash flow positive.

On the management window for our homeworld, there is a lot more info along with our control sliders. Note what is missing: no Eco slider. eek Spending to clean up pollution is automatic, and is represented by the "Waste" figure in the middle right. Roughly a third of our planet's output is going to pollution control, and this also impacts our pop growth rate -- we lose half the waste figure from our growth rate even though we are cleaning it up. (Not sure on this change, but that is how it seems to work.) Note that no Eco slider also means no way to force grow pop. eek Maybe this is possible later with better tech like cloning? I don't know yet. But for now our pop growth will be what it is, and we can not do much about it.

Each of the figures shown on the panel has a tool tip with more details. The tool tips are really nice in this game. nod The game also has a whole series of tutorial hints that pop up the first time you encounter a new feature; I have not screenshotted those but they have a lot of useful info. They can be dismissed individually or turned off entirely.

For the moment I have the homeworld build more factories. Note the cost per factory shown next to the slider -- this varies not just due to your tech but also by how many factories a planet already has. So the initial factories on a new colony are cheaper and then the cost continues to climb as the world industrializes, up to the factory controls limit for the population. I am not sure exactly what the formula for this is yet; total number of factories? Factories per pop? Other?

Also next to the factory slider is an "Adv" button for controlling your industry spending. It allows you to limit spending so the planet will not build more factories than you have pop available to work, or you can set cut off points based on cost so you do not spend on factories that won't have a rapid enough payback timeframe. Very useful. nod

Now that the homeworld is working away on industry, let's send out some ships and explore the galaxy. Here is our starting fleet:

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The tool tip for each ship class gives a summary of that design. The Arrow is your basic small hull with a laser -- a standard start of game popgun fighter. The Interdictor and Iroquois are mediums, one with a pair of missile batteries and a couple lasers while the other has half a dozen lasers. (Can't remember which is which right now.) And the colony ship is your basic large hull with a colonization special. Pretty standard default designs. You can of course go and design your own ships, but these are what we have to begin the game.

Also, note that with ships selected the game highlights our logistics range with our color, making it obvious which systems can be reached. No need to check every system near the edge of your eyeball estimate of range to see if they are reachable or not. smile There does not appear to be any equivalent of extended fuel tanks or scout class ships. Your logistics range is a hard limit for all ships.

The obvious first target to explore is the yellow star to Sol's south, as the blue and red stars are not likely to have very good worlds. I could split up my ships and explore multiple systems, but Dominus Galaxia has independent forces guarding more attractive worlds. So I send the entire fleet to the yellow star, which at 7 parsecs away will take 4 turns. (Starting engines tech moves at warp 2 along star lanes.)

Sol grows a bit and adds some factories for three clicks of the turn button, then our fleet arrives at the Yellah system. It has a lovely Terran 95 with gold deposits dance but it is guarded by pirates:

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I could hail the pirates and try to negotiate, perhaps buy them off. But I out-number them in war ships and also have the colony ship itself which is armed with a couple lasers and has lots of hit points for this early in the game. Let's try fighting. You can auto-resolve the battle with an option to set how aggressive you want your ships to be, or handle it manually. I have no idea if this is a good idea or not lol, but I take command myself.

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Here is our tactical battle screen. Stacks move by initiative, with the upcoming order shown at the bottom, and things like flanking have a significant effect on chances to hit and potential for critical damage. Your ships have facing, and can expend movement points rotating as well as moving. The game highlights your movement range, and there are some asteroid fields and a couple bigger rocks to use for cover.

Battle scans appear to be automatic -- the lower right panel shows info on one of the enemy stacks. Note that the pirates will never retreat, and will have to be destroyed. We can retreat, but it will take three turns to prep our FTL drives first.

The pirate ships have proton guns (whatever those are, hopefully not too advanced) and the larger ships also have nuke missiles. I am faster and begin advancing, focusing my missiles on the smaller pirates to try to remove some of their weapons before they get a chance to close and fire.

Here is the scrum a few rounds later.

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I have destroyed half the pirate ships (one medium and two of the smalls), while they have focused their fire on my colony ship which has taken about one quarter damage (74/100 from the info panel). Note that my FTL is now ready, so if I decided to retreat I could escape. But as long as the pirates focus on the colony ship I am fine; it is tough enough to take it. I am not sure if they want to prevent me from colonizing the system, or how the AI is choosing targets. But it is working to my benefit for now.

A few more rounds and I finish off the pirates, with the colony ship damaged but not in serious danger (about 40 hit points left).

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With the pirates gone, I get the opportunity to colonize the system.

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First, note the galactic map. Adding Yellah as a colony does not extend my logistics range -- I need to build a space port to do that. It does extend my long range scanners, however -- note that the star to the east of Yellah now shows a star lane that was not present before, and two of the "generic" stars now have their color shown. (Both blue in this case.)

For Yellah itself, note the cost per factory is only 5 BC each. That will increase as the planet industrializes, but it is nice to get that first bit of industry more cheaply. nod Also note the green stimulus slider at 100% as I boost my new world's production from my treasury. No more approximating how much money to transfer each turn, just set the percentage of the planet's output you want matched from your reserves. Nice. smile

The "Bolster Population" button allows me to send pop from the homeworld. It brings up this panel:

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I only have the homeworld to send pop right now, but later you can choose from multiple worlds to supply pop based on distance or pop available. The panel gives you info on the size of the target world, cost to move the population, and how long it will take them to arrive. You can also choose safety vs. speed if there are multiple paths possible; right now it is just a single jump so no worries. I send 14 pop from Sol to get Yellah started, which should keep Sol in the prime part of the pop growth curve (assuming things work similarly to MOO).

The tool tip for the gold deposits indicates that population on Yellah will produce more revenue than normal. I am not sure what the formula is for that yet. The overall revenue tool tip said I was getting 5 BC/turn from pop when Sol had 50 pop, so maybe it is just per pop? Other things may affect this as well, probably tech later on. I don't know.

So that's the opening of my Dominus Galxia game. I fought some pirates and founded a colony. Next will be some exploration, developing my worlds, and maybe opening up research. I will try to get the next chunk of turns up tomorrow, life permitting. Hopefully this has been interesting. smile

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  Blizzard bans 'Hearthstone' pro for Hong Kong protest support
Posted by: Gustaran - October 8th, 2019, 15:35 - Forum: Off Topic - Replies (78)

https://www.engadget.com/2019/10/08/bliz...g-protest/

And this happens just after "South Park" has been banned in China for a critical episode criticizing the global impact of China's censorship. You couldn't make this up... rolleye

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/s...de-1245783

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  Squares or hexes?
Posted by: Seravy - October 8th, 2019, 08:00 - Forum: Master of Magic - Replies (22)

The first question from Slitherine : do we prefer hexes or square map tiles?
Let them know by posting your opinion here!

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  [spoiler?] PB47 - blah
Posted by: Ruff_Hi - October 8th, 2019, 05:17 - Forum: Pitboss 47 - Replies (48)

I thought this was a pbem.

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